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According to this report, linked in post 87 the house with 11 killed was a village elder (who conveniently was not home). The sister of this "elder", aka Mohammed Wazir, says there were two men. However, in early reports Afghanis claimed 50 were either killed or injured.....so everything they say should be taken with a grain or two of salt.

In the second village, according to that link, four or possibly five men were killed. This differed from the man who lived there who (again conveniently not home) said it was two brothers and SIL's.

But it is curious to go to two different villages to commit a random killing spree. Supposedly an Afghani guard noticed a soldier leaving and when a check was done, Bales was the only one missing. When he returned, he was wearing an Afghani robe/shawl. All of this seems purposeful......not saying he killed anyone...but he seemed to have a purpose for leaving and then returning under cover.

Adding in the outstanding endorsements of others, this is a very curious situation. Of course, PTSD, or some other onset of mental illness is always still a possibility.

Here are your grains of salt,

WHEN EVER A MUSLEM SAYS ANYTHING, CONSIDER THE FOLLOWING:

The book “The spirit of Islam,” by the Muslim scholar, Afif A. Tabbarah was written to promote Islam. On page 247, Tabbarah stated: “Lying is not always bad, to be sure; there are times when telling a lie is more profitable and better for the general welfare, and for the settlement of conciliation among people, than telling the truth. To this effect, the Prophet says: ‘He is not a false person who (through lies) settles conciliation among people, supports good or says what is good.”

Most Muslims are familiar with the principles of Islam that will justify lying in situations where they sense the need to do so. Among these are:

War is deception.
The necessities justify the forbidden.
If faced by two evils, choose the lesser of the two.
These principles are derived from passages found in the Quran and the Hadith.

In the Quran, Allah, allegedly, says:

” Allah will not call you to account for what is futile in your oaths, but He will call you to account for your deliberate oaths: for expiation, feed ten indigent persons, on a scale of the average for the food of your families; or clothe them; or give a slave his freedom. If that is beyond your means, fast for three days. That is the expiation for the oaths ye have sworn. But keep to your oaths. Thus doth Allah make clear to you His signs, that ye may be grateful.” Surah 5:89

“Allah will not call you to account for thoughtlessness (vain) in your oaths, but for the intention in your hearts; and He is Oft-forgiving, Most Forbearing.” Surah 2:225

The noted Islamic commentator, Al-Tabary explained Surah 16:106 as a verse that had been revealed to Mohammed after he learned that Ammar Ibn Yasser was forced to deny his faith in Mohammed when kidnapped by the Banu Moghera tribe. Mohammed consoled Ammar by telling him, “If they turned, you turn.” (Meaning: if they again capture you, you are allowed to deny me again.)

These and similar passages from the Quran clearly reveal that Muslims’ unintentional lies are forgivable and that even their intentional lies can be absolved by performing extra duties. It is also clear that if forced to do so, Muslims can lie while under oath and can even falsely deny faith in Allah, as long as they maintain the profession of faith in their hearts.

THEIR FAITH ALLOWS AND ENCOURAGES THEM TO LIE.

Members of the Afghan delegation investigating the killings said one Afghan guard working from midnight to 2 a.m. saw a U.S. soldier return to the base around 1:30 a.m. Another Afghan soldier who replaced the first and worked until 4 a.m. said he saw a U.S. soldier leaving the base at 2:30 a.m. It is unknown whether the Afghan guards saw the same U.S. soldier. If the gunman acted alone, information from the Afghan guards would suggest that he returned to base in between the shooting rampages.

Bales charged

Ain't gonna say much (cause I'll just get yelled at for being a leftist military hating crazy person) except for this. People need to get over their self-righteous idealism and fight Islam JUST LIKE they treat us and themselves.

It's a beautiful day...