Army capt.: Afghan killing suspect has saved lives

Associated Press ^ | March 17, 2012

[Squantos]

Total agreement. Secrecy is a asset in combat and peace time. You give away any asset you aid the enemy like OBAMA does almost every damn day IMO. Essential Elements of Friendly Information (EEFI) no matter how small or seemingly unclassified can be as you well know “collected” to form the bigger picture by the enemy. SOP & even the smallest operational details can get folks killed.

Had a presstitute revealed my families location, personal information etc ... I would like to think they’d have to learn to write with they’re feet after such if I could find em.

Major General William Tecumseh Sherman is alleged to have said....

“If I had my choice I would kill every reporter in the world, but I am sure we would be getting reports from hell before breakfast.”

My opinion only.......Stay Safe !

[Delta 21]

The military (usually) dont mess around with all the small stuff. They just load you up on Lithium and chapter you out as a dirt bag.

There is a whole lotta story we will never know or see.

The expendibility of soldiers by politicians is sickening.

Its just pissing me off now.

[Delta 21]

The actions by the media and all the politicians is just sickening. The feeding frenzy will get a lot worse before his crucification is over.

I thank God that this type of craziness never got close to me while I was in.

How do we harness the helplessness I am sure veterans feel over the stolen valor of this administration and the royal screwing all of us got (some much more severe than others)while trying to do our best for our country?

#frustrated to no end!!

[Delta 21]

Here are your grains of salt,

WHEN EVER A MUSLEM SAYS ANYTHING, CONSIDER THE FOLLOWING:

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The book “The spirit of Islam,” by the Muslim scholar, Afif A. Tabbarah was written to promote Islam. On page 247, Tabbarah stated: “Lying is not always bad, to be sure; there are times when telling a lie is more profitable and better for the general welfare, and for the settlement of conciliation among people, than telling the truth. To this effect, the Prophet says: ‘He is not a false person who (through lies) settles conciliation among people, supports good or says what is good.”

Most Muslims are familiar with the principles of Islam that will justify lying in situations where they sense the need to do so. Among these are:

War is deception.
The necessities justify the forbidden.
If faced by two evils, choose the lesser of the two.
These principles are derived from passages found in the Quran and the Hadith.

In the Quran, Allah, allegedly, says:

” Allah will not call you to account for what is futile in your oaths, but He will call you to account for your deliberate oaths: for expiation, feed ten indigent persons, on a scale of the average for the food of your families; or clothe them; or give a slave his freedom. If that is beyond your means, fast for three days. That is the expiation for the oaths ye have sworn. But keep to your oaths. Thus doth Allah make clear to you His signs, that ye may be grateful.” Surah 5:89

“Allah will not call you to account for thoughtlessness (vain) in your oaths, but for the intention in your hearts; and He is Oft-forgiving, Most Forbearing.” Surah 2:225

The noted Islamic commentator, Al-Tabary explained Surah 16:106 as a verse that had been revealed to Mohammed after he learned that Ammar Ibn Yasser was forced to deny his faith in Mohammed when kidnapped by the Banu Moghera tribe. Mohammed consoled Ammar by telling him, “If they turned, you turn.” (Meaning: if they again capture you, you are allowed to deny me again.)

These and similar passages from the Quran clearly reveal that Muslims’ unintentional lies are forgivable and that even their intentional lies can be absolved by performing extra duties. It is also clear that if forced to do so, Muslims can lie while under oath and can even falsely deny faith in Allah, as long as they maintain the profession of faith in their hearts.

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THEIR FAITH ALLOWS AND ENCOURAGES THEM TO LIE.

[Girlene]

That is a given, Delta 21.

[Future Snake Eater]

Yeah, that last part about him wanting to change duty stations is outrageous. He’s been in that Battalion (possibly the same CO and PLT, I’m not sure) for his ENTIRE CAREER. He was looking at a fourth deployment with that BN. Gee, I can’t imagine why he was looking at changing units. Idiots.

[RightOnline]

"This man is child killer and mass murderer. He should have been executed already. He’s an embarassment to this country.

I am not going to be part of defending this man."

Oh.....so that means you were either there to witness what transpired that night, or you're a remote viewer? Pray tell, DO enlighten us mere mortals. Lay the truth of what really happened on us, if you can get down off of that high horse to do it.

A**hole.

[cricket]

Would seem at least 'right' that Captain Bales is given same, 'benefits of doubt'; same considerations that Major Hasan (perp of Ft. Hood massacre aka 'incident' by Obama,Inc.) is still reaping as we speak. . . We can note too; that Hassan not a victim of post-traumatic stress syndrome when he praised Allah before opening fire. . .

Meantime; Major Hassan - who not only still has his head; but Military pay; including medical care - sits; NOT on 'death row'; nor in a maximum security prison. Rather he 'sits'; we might assume 'comfortably'; in Bell County jail in Belton, Texas. . .

And as we ponder 'Justice' for Captain Bales; and contrasting story lines; we should think as well; of those Islamic Jihadists, who are being given the 'open door' with free passes to 'home'.

It all makes sense; no?

[Night Hides Not]

Here's my question of the day:

If POTUS is taking credit for offing OBL, shouldn't he be taking credit/sharing the blame for the actions of SSG Bales?

As CINC, the buck stops with him.

IMHO, another failure by the chain of command. Based on my limited reading of the case, was the SSG fit to serve another tour in Afghanistan?

[bigheadfred]

Members of the Afghan delegation investigating the killings said one Afghan guard working from midnight to 2 a.m. saw a U.S. soldier return to the base around 1:30 a.m. Another Afghan soldier who replaced the first and worked until 4 a.m. said he saw a U.S. soldier leaving the base at 2:30 a.m. It is unknown whether the Afghan guards saw the same U.S. soldier. If the gunman acted alone, information from the Afghan guards would suggest that he returned to base in between the shooting rampages.

Bales charged

Ain't gonna say much (cause I'll just get yelled at for being a leftist military hating crazy person) except for this. People need to get over their self-righteous idealism and fight Islam JUST LIKE they treat us and themselves.

It's a beautiful day...