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To: PeaRidge

Secession wasn’t “a well thought out solution”, it didn’t deliver “totally positive consequences”.

As of Lincoln’s first day, the states with slaves had hadn’t “disappeared from his per view”, largely or any other way.

The political opponents hadn’t withdrawn.

The Southern states weren’t asking for peace.

The Davis government weren’t issuing offers of reimbursement for federal facilities.

Trade wasn’t continuing.

The banks weren’t prospering.

Shipping wasn’t continuing without any violence.

People were traveling. - I’ll give you that one although from the moment the fire-eaters had there way travel became more and more perilous.

“All was well”. One would have to be completely delusional - or a liar - to believe that.


85 posted on 03/23/2012 1:10:54 PM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: rockrr
I am surprised that you would show your ignorance so extensively, but let the facts speak for themselves.

Below are your comments:

As of Lincoln’s first day, the states with slaves had hadn’t “disappeared from his per view”, largely or any other way.

Wrong!

By February 1, 1861, the predominately slave states were all gone.

http://americanhistory.about.com/od/civilwarmenu/a/secession_order.htm

The political opponents hadn’t withdrawn.

Wrong!

January 21, 1861 - Withdrawal of Southern Congressmen. Members from the seceding states had designated January 21, as the day of their mass resignations.

http://www.thelatinlibrary.com/chron/civilwar.html

The Southern states weren’t asking for peace.

Wrong!

On March 12, 1861 the newly formed Congress of the Confederate States of America asked for peace.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confederate_States_peace_commission

The Davis government weren’t issuing offers of reimbursement for federal facilities.

Wrong!

The South offered twice to pay for property. Once in 1860

http://www.teachingushistory.org/pdfs/TranscriptionofLetterofcommissionerstopresident_000.pdf

and again in 1861

http://avalon.law.yale.edu/19th_century/csa_l022761.asp

Trade wasn’t continuing.

Wrong!

Every week ships entered Southern harbors to off load passengers and cargo. USMS Nashville, a steamer with passengers and cargo from New York was trading in Charleston all during the months from January to April of 1861.

http://myathenaeum.com/simpson/page194.html

The banks weren’t prospering.

Wrong!

From 1850 to 1860, the growth of banking and numbers of loans doubled.

The same trend occurred between 1859 and 1860

http://eh.net/encyclopedia/article/bodenhorn.banking.antebellum

Shipping wasn’t continuing without any violence.

Wrong!

Shipping was continuing

The Confederate government then passed a further resolution on February 26th, which repealed “all laws which forbid the employment in the coasting-trade of vessels not enrolled or licensed, and all laws imposing discriminating duties on foreign vessels or goods imported in them.”

By these actions, the Confederacy clearly displays their most fervent wish that the ongoing dispute between the States be resolved peacefully and without a disruption in trade along the Mississippi or any other trade route.

http://7score10years.com/index.php/south/81-south/177-february-26-1861-confederacy-moves-to-ensure-freedom-along-mississippi-river

Just consider yourself a poorly uninformed poster that probably does not care about his ignorance.

100 posted on 03/26/2012 3:13:16 PM PDT by PeaRidge
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