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To: gogogodzilla
And as a return challenge, what was the morality on these laws? (as you claim all law is based on morality)

You completely misunderstand and mistate what has been said by others as well.

It has been accurately stated that all laws are based on someone's morality.....I never stated that all laws were based on my morality......or even yours (presuming you don't deny that you have it).

The argument that you can't legislate morality is ridiculous, because that is exactly what law does. It's just an excuse to say, don't make a law about something you want to do.

As to your first point, it completely supports my argument. Statutory rape is against the law....even though it may not involve violence of any kind, and is between consenting individuals......because of the morality of society's determination that the age of consent is 18. To say that such a law, or the laws against homosexual marriage (be careful about supporting that here on FR), are NOT legislating morality, is foolish.

btw, I went back to read some of your posts to me and saw that at least one had been pulled by the mods. I found that quite interesting. I guess your mockery went over the top, eh?

I urge you to try to understand that the Founders presumed morality when they founded this great Republic, and the farther away we get from our Judeo-Christian roots the more danger we are in. That is NOT to say that the dangers socialism (in other forms) poses, but to dismiss the removal of values from our laws is to push us farther down the path to extinction as a nation.

438 posted on 03/19/2012 9:44:39 AM PDT by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star recipient!)
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To: ohioWfan
It has been accurately stated that all laws are based on someone's morality.....I never stated that all laws were based on my morality......or even yours (presuming you don't deny that you have it).

And all moral codes are based on encouraging behavior that promotes the survival of the society, and discouraging behavior that works against the survival of the society. At least they on in societies that manage to survive.

A corollary is that some moral issues are more important than others.

443 posted on 03/19/2012 10:03:46 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act. - George Orwell)
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To: ohioWfan
As to your first point, it completely supports my argument. Statutory rape is against the law....even though it may not involve violence of any kind, and is between consenting individuals......because of the morality of society's determination that the age of consent is 18.

I see the problem. Your definition of morality is simply what society agrees it should do. I thought you defined morality as G-d's word. I define morality as the intentions and decisions made leading up to whatever behavior is acted out.

So to legislate morality, by my definition, is to legislate what one may or may not think. And that is patently offensive to me. (In essence, it is 1984's 'thoughtcrime'.)

And I note that you dodged my list of laws. I had the courtesy to address yours... yet you do not for mine?

454 posted on 03/19/2012 1:50:11 PM PDT by gogogodzilla (Live free or die!)
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