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To: TigersEye; marktwain
The U.S. Direct Commercial Sales program is run from the U.S. State Department’s Directorate of Defense Trade Controls. It regulates and licenses private U.S. companies’ overseas sales of weapons and other defense materials, defense services, and military training. This does not include the Foreign Military Sales (FMS) program, which authorized sales to foreign governments.

I read the earlier reference to DDTC as a evidence that the cartel was actually getting its weapons from the mexican military (and I do believe that... elements of the military have always been compromised in the past...)

But your post indicates that no, this is separate from the military sales. The State Department is selling weapons directly to the Zetas. We know one of the operations was selling weapons to the Honduran mob after the Zelaya affair, which led me to think there was a foreign policy objective involved in that sale. Another was selling weapons to the cartel. And now State selling to the Zetas.

But it occurs to me that we are just seeing the tip of a very big iceberg. The Clintons were in up to their necks in gun running back in the eighties, and this looks like the same song same key. Like then you've got investigations that seem to facilitate and cover the very thing they are supposedly investigating. You got some agencies in the know, others not in the know. You have to wonder at some point who exactly is working for who.

If the Zetas are armed by State, we've got ATF selling to the Mexican cartel, and to the Honduran mob, this is not a one-off. This is an enterprise. There is a parallel organization within these organizations that has its own agenda and no one dares to question them. It can be dismissed as a national security operation, or an on-going investigation and no one dares to question it.

This sounds like an old conspiracy movie in which the good guys all turn out to be bad guys. Maybe like Gene Hackman's The Firm multiplied by 10 thousand.

I remember years ago a Venezuelan general was arrested for shipping container-loads of drugs into the US. His defense was, that he had DEA's permission to ship so they could follow the shipment. But, you've sent 10 shipments, they said. Is this an investigation or a business? And at some point you conclude, the investigation is just the cover for a thriving enterprise.

18 posted on 03/16/2012 10:42:11 PM PDT by marron
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To: marron
Yes, I think all avenues have been/are being used to sell weapons to the drug cartels. Legal sales to the Mexican military, direct sales through the CIA and gun "walking" by the ATF. This is what I think of it...

Let's call it what it is. State-sponsored terrorism.

On this side of the border it's violations of the RICO Act. In Mexico and Honduras it's state-sponsored terrorism.

What else would you call heavily arming international criminal syndicates within a foreign country wherein that country is in a death struggle with those syndicates?

Especially when it goes beyond thousands of assault rifles to include grenades, RPGs, shoulder fired rockets, anti-aircraft guns, night vision equipment, body armor and special deals to bring their drugs onto our soil with legal impunity?

Not to mention the just-revealed news that the rip crew that killed BP Agent Brian Terry was there with DEA and FBI assistance and approval to attack and kill a rival cartel's smuggling crew.

Let's not leave out the FBI and DEA laundering millions of dollars for the drug cartels by setting up bank accounts for them that they otherwise couldn't do. As well as immunity deals for cartel kingpins.

It's organized, it is spread through every Federal LEA and it violates numerous domestic laws and numerous statutes and treaties that deal with foreign nations. Yet none of it has been officially sanctioned. It's the FedGov acting like mafiosa.

0bama, Holder and Hillary Clinton are all deeply involved in this and it is state-sponsored terrorism. These Chicago machine Marxist thugs are dragging our country down to the level of Tehran and Pyongyang.

19 posted on 03/16/2012 11:00:14 PM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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