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To: dt57
You may be right about March 14, 1980.

But it wasn't quite so bad on March 10, 1980>/a>:

When pitted against President Carter among a cross section of 1,498 likely voters, Ford runs ahead by a 54-44 percent margin. By contrast, among the same voters, Reagan trails Carter by 58-40 percent. Back in late November, at the start of the Iranian hostage crisis, Carter was ahead of Ford by 50-47 percent. Back then, Carter led Reagan by 53-44 percent. However, just a month ago, Carter led Reagan by a wider 64-32 percent, indicating some slippage in the President's strength over the past 30 days.
Of course, polling in 1980 was not in the same league as polling is today, what with free long distance and computers.

And by the end of April 30, of 1980, Carter Vs Reagan: Dead Heat

Polls are a measurement. You use them as data, like you would use any other information. They might not be accurate, but they are a better basis for objective analysis than what people "feel", or their "instincts" -- there are experts who HAVE good instincts, but I wouldn't trust the typical voter's "instincts", given that the polls are hardly trustworthy and they are reflective of a larger sampling of voter's "instincts" than the anecdotes we get here.

If one is arguing that Santorum can't be elected because the electorate is turned off by his views, but polls are consistantly showing he is within striking distance, that certainly suggests that people are wrong about the impact of his views on the electorate.

And if people say Gingrich will crush Obama because he can attract voters, but polls consistantly show he's losing by double-digits, that suggests that, at this moment, Gingrich isn't doing a good job of attracting voters.

Maybe Gingrich will figure out how to get people to like him. Maybe people will get more educated about Santorum and reject him.

But use your instincts -- which candidate do people know more positive things about, Santorum or Gingrich? Gingrich was in the news for decades, and among republicans had a lot of positive news cycles until he started doing un-conservative things. Gingrich has had much more money to spend this cycle putting out positive advertisement. Santorum has had millions spent telling people negative things about him, and has had little money to spend to put out a positive message.

And since Santorum isn't know, it is more likely his numbers could swing, positive or negative, but he is very positive right now in favorability.

Gingrich is very well-known, and it is likely nothing he can do can swing his favorability much one way or another, and right now it's rather unfavorable.

So my instincts tell me there is more upside potential to Santorum than Gingrich, and that Gingrich isn't performing well in his current state, and has little chance to CHANGE that perception.

66 posted on 03/15/2012 12:02:20 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: CharlesWayneCT

Well, I still think you are wrong. Yes, my very old instincts. And yes the polls are much better, and I am not sure my memory is as good as it once was about all the polling about Reagan. Just remember some of the same things being said about him, and yes he was a well known figure. I hope Rick has a larger upside, and I hope he gets better articulating his message. And here goes the kicker that will stir everyone up. My opinion is that George Bush when it come to crossover voters, (not democrats but independants and moderate republicans.) was way ahead of Rick Santorum at this point in his carrear. This is of course opinion. But, polls or no, I have not missed the outcome an election in over 40 years at least. But I could be wrong, I am over due.


67 posted on 03/15/2012 12:11:52 PM PDT by dt57 (illerate, noobie....)
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