Posted on 03/11/2012 7:54:27 PM PDT by deek69
Meir Dagan has been described as "hard-charging" and "stops at nothing." For more than eight years, Dagan made full use of those qualities as chief of Mossad, Israel's intelligence agency, where he focused on keeping Iran from developing a nuclear weapon. When that job ended, Dagan did something unheard of for an ex-Mossad chief: he spoke out publicly, voicing opposition to Israel launching preemptive airstrikes against Iran's nuclear facilities anytime soon. Dagan believes the Iranian regime is a rational one and even its president, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad - who has called for Israel to be annihilated - acts in a somewhat rational way when it comes to Iran's nuclear ambitions.
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Second Lebanon War & Aftermath (2006-Present)
On July 12, 2006, the military and financial support that Hezbollah had been receiving from Iran and Syria was put to the test when its guerrilla’s perfidiously attacked an IDF patrol on the Israel-Lebanon border and abducted two soldiers, Ehud Goldwasser and Eldad Regev. Simultaneously, Hezbollah units inside Lebanon began firing katyusha rockets to pound northern Israel and create panic and fear.
After more than a weeklong campaign of artillery and air fire to suppress Hezbollah targets, the IDF invaded southern Lebanon at the end of July with the mission to destroy Hezbollah’s military capability and kill as many of its terrrorists and fighters as possible. Though the war is widely considered to have ended in a stale-mate, with neither side producing a decisive victory, Israel maintains that it killed nearly 600 Hezbollah guerrilla’s and destroyed tons of their illegal weaponry.
Hezbollah leader Hassan Nasrallah mentioned in various interviews that he did not expect such a high level response and invasion by the IDF following the initial attack but that he believes his forces acted heroically and not only withstood the Israeli assault but inflicted their own damage, killing more than 120 Israeli soldiers.
In the aftermath of the month-long war in 2006, the United Nations was tasked with maintaining a UNIFIL force both on Israel’s border with Lebanon to prevent future skirmishes, but also on Lebanon’s border with Syria to prevent further arms smuggling into the Hezbollah stronghold areas. Unfortunately, UNIFIL’s mission has been compromised either by a lack of desire on the part of its soldiers to interfere or a lack of ability to stop the smuggling.
Israeli intelligence now believes that Hezbollah has completely rearmed itself from the 2006 war and has even enhanced its weapons stock further, despite UNIFIL’s presence. It is believed that Hezbollah’s weapons stores hold at least 10,000 katyusha and other short to medium-range rockets. In January 2012, the IDF further updated its operational assessment of Hezbollah to say that it believed the terrorist organization now had long-range surface-to-air missile systems imported from Syria that can match Israel’s aerial dominance. The upheaval in Syria during the winter of 2011/2012 enabled Hezbollah to obtain the weapons systems in addition to other various Russian-made air-defense units.
While Hezbollah is known to have a large quantity of shoulder-launched anti-aircraft missiles, the IDF now assumes that the Lebanese Islamist group has received the SA-8, a truck-mounted Russian tactical surface- to-air missile system reported to have a range of 30 kilometers. In addition to the possible transfer of air-defense systems, Hezbollah is also believed to have received several dozen more M600 long-range missiles, as well as additional 302 mm. Khaibar-1 rockets, which have a range of about 100 kilometers.
Unfortunately, it seems that only time will tell the true depth and breadth of Hezbollah’s arms cache.
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Terrorism/hizbollah.html#2000
Except that the Iranians are not Arabs, they are Persians/Iranians. Maybe they are willing to sacrifice 100 million Muslims, and they are definitely willing to sacrifice 100 million Arabs, but they are not prepared to sacrifice every Persian.
Jdg 16:28 ¶ And Samson called unto the LORD, and said, O Lord GOD, remember me, I pray thee, and strengthen me, I pray thee, only this once, O God, that I may be at once avenged of the Philistines for my two eyes.
Jdg 16:29 And Samson took hold of the two middle pillars upon which the house stood, and on which it was borne up, of the one with his right hand, and of the other with his left.
Jdg 16:30 And Samson said, Let me die with the Philistines. And he bowed himself with [all his] might; and the house fell upon the lords, and upon all the people that [were] therein. So the dead which he slew at his death were more than [they] which he slew in his life.
Called the “Samson Option” because, just like Samson, Israel would take down the entire Middle East if they were to die.
This is my take on what will happen:
http://unsealedprophecy.wordpress.com/2012/02/20/psalm-83-war-imminent/
The article has a link to a downloadable prophecy timeline spreadsheet. An updated version of that spreadsheet is available at:
http://unsealedprophecy.files.wordpress.com/2008/01/prophecy_v4-1-4.xls
The quick maxim for that is “too young to die, too old to take a beating.”
You see anti-gun types talking about “just a little fair fist fight”. Screw that, I want no part of it.
He looks like he has the weight of the world on his shoulders.
Yep. The world is a house of cards right now, and there’s no going back.
The only fight I want any part of is one where the odds are stacked decisively in my favor. We aren’t there.
The problem with fighting fair is that the other guy won’t.
Years ago an old WWII vet Superintendent of Schools back in Oklahoma told we boys that if you humiliate a guy by whipping him you never know when he is going to be under the bleachers with a pipe to get even and maybe more. A fight worth having had better be a fight worth finishing.
“too young to die, too old to take a beating.” I like that.
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And Israel is a socialist country to the bone founded by socialists. Iran, by most measures, is a conservative country. What law, or even convention, makes it legal for Israel to attack Iran? What law says one country can have a nuclear deterrence but another is not allowed? Does Israel have any international support for initiating violence? Are they starting a war the US will end up fighting on their behalf again?
Thanks deek69.
Israel’s somewhat constrained from attacking Iran by those Hizzie missiles (as someone pointed out, it was careless of me to not reply-to that way, and lazy of me not to go back and fix it). It doesn’t want to spend money on preemptive strikes on those Lebanese bunkers — that’s the reason for the US offer of more bunker-busters, btw — or risk assets such as trained pilots in such strikes, or even worse, distract the Lebanese from their crucial role in supporting the uprising in Syria.
Iran, by most measures, is a conservative country.
The Shah was conservative. The Mullahs run a revolutionary regime, one which destroyed the institutions of Iran and created one based on a false history and an immanentization of the eschaton. That isn't conservative.
What law, or even convention, makes it legal for Israel to attack Iran? What law says one country can have a nuclear deterrence but another is not allowed?
This isn't about deterrence. It already has deterrence thanks to its ability to disrupt oil production in the region and the ability of Hizbollah to rocket 1/3 of Israel. Iran has promised to destroy America and Israel.
It is nice to know that you put liberal internationalism above the safety of the US.
Does Israel have any international support for initiating violence? Are they starting a war the US will end up fighting on their behalf again?
Most countries in the region want Israel to fix this problem. None of Iran's neighbors save Shia in Iraq or Afghanistan want a nuclear Iran.
My point was that the Psalm 83 war comes soon, and long before “Armageddon.”
It will likely open the door for all of YHVH’s elect to migrate to the region before the beginning of the Trib.
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