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The Big Battery Breakthrough
Car Talk ^ | 7 Mar 12 | Jim Motovalli

Posted on 03/11/2012 10:19:20 AM PDT by NavVet

Envia has figured out how “to improve energy density at the anode and cathode and store more lithium.” In short, he claims to have doubled energy density and halved the cost of lithium-ion batteries. And he says that his breakthrough isn’t theoretical—packs are already built on an automotive scale and are being tested by automakers around the world.

It’s impossible to verify all that, and Kapadia won’t tell me which automakers he’s working with, though GM is presumably one of them. Specifically, Envia says it has reached an energy density of 400-watt-hours per kilogram in auto-grade lithium-ion cells, and achieved a price target of $150 per kilowatt hour.

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Doubled the energy density, while cutting costs per KW/H more than in half. If this pans out,an AFFORDABLE electric cars with a 300 mile range could be just around the corner.
1 posted on 03/11/2012 10:19:28 AM PDT by NavVet
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To: NavVet

Sure is a mighty big corner.


2 posted on 03/11/2012 10:21:17 AM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: NavVet

zero will probably funnel some cash to them....


3 posted on 03/11/2012 10:22:13 AM PDT by illiac (If we don't change directions soon, we'll get where we're going)
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To: NavVet

Not in the cold, and still powered by “dirty” sources. In others words, still crap for vehicles.


4 posted on 03/11/2012 10:23:12 AM PDT by vpintheak (Occupy your Brain!)
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If this pans out,an AFFORDABLE electric cars with a 300 mile range could be just around the corner.

Talking points for Zer0 and the MARXIST media.

5 posted on 03/11/2012 10:23:30 AM PDT by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal The 16th Amendment!)
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To: NavVet
Doubled the energy density, while cutting costs per KW/H more than in half. If this pans out,an AFFORDABLE electric cars with a 300 mile range could be just around the corner.

More like 40 mile range could be just around the corner ... providing the batteries actually last for a while, recharge without exploding, and work in cold weather.

6 posted on 03/11/2012 10:24:08 AM PDT by Zakeet (Obozo is to competent as an Etch-A-Sketch is to art)
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It’s impossible to verify all that...

If this pans out,an AFFORDABLE electric cars with a 300 mile range could be just around the corner.

So, just to be safe, I shouldn't abandon my work on the engine that runs on Unicorn Farts?

I could never be a liberal. I just don't have the capacity for blind faith.

7 posted on 03/11/2012 10:25:58 AM PDT by Grizzled Bear (No More RINOS!)
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To: NavVet

What else would you expect from NPR. Just like Car and Driver voting last year for the Chevy Dolt as Car of the Year.

I do miss The Car Guys since crossing NPR from my list of stations.

That is just about all I miss but I miss them just the same.


8 posted on 03/11/2012 10:26:17 AM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie (zerogottago)
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To: NavVet

Forget cars.
If you don’t see model aircraft using this soon- it’s not happening.


9 posted on 03/11/2012 10:26:22 AM PDT by mrsmith (Sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat Party)
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To: NavVet

Where is the electricity to charge those batteries going to come from?


10 posted on 03/11/2012 10:26:27 AM PDT by Jim Noble ("The Germans: At your feet, or at your throat" - Winston Churchill)
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To: vpintheak

Dirty sources like clean burning American coal and nuclear. Don’t tell me you are one of those Global warning whackos that considers carbon dioxide “dirty”.

An electric car powered by Virginia coal, is my dream vehicle.


11 posted on 03/11/2012 10:28:26 AM PDT by NavVet ("You Lie!")
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Great, he ought to work his way up through a proto-type with a private loan arranged with venture capitalists he’s convinced. He doesn’t need to jump to a billion dollar loan through well-connected Dem donors from the DOE.


12 posted on 03/11/2012 10:28:40 AM PDT by gusopol3
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It’s impossible to verify all that, and Kapadia won’t tell me which automakers he’s working with

Stopped reading right there.

13 posted on 03/11/2012 10:28:53 AM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: NavVet

It ain’t going to be worth squat without resolving the recharge time issue.

Get it under 10 minutes for a full charge and they’ll be viable as an alternative to a conventional car.

Otherwise, they stay as commuters and as curios.


14 posted on 03/11/2012 10:29:25 AM PDT by gogogodzilla (Live free or die!)
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How would this be Marxist. If it turns out to be true, and an a 25000 dollar electric car could drive 300 miles on a charge, what is “Zer0 or Marxist” about that.


15 posted on 03/11/2012 10:30:37 AM PDT by NavVet ("You Lie!")
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To: NavVet

The bi-annual “We Improved The Battery” annoucement.


16 posted on 03/11/2012 10:31:04 AM PDT by Iron Munro ("Don't pick a fight with an old man. If he is too old to fight he'll just kill you." John Steinbeck)
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To: Zakeet

You obviously didn’t actually read the article.


17 posted on 03/11/2012 10:32:05 AM PDT by NavVet ("You Lie!")
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Envia says...

That's all this article amounts to. If I only had a dollar for every time I've read that somebody says they have better battery.

18 posted on 03/11/2012 10:35:15 AM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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Batteries are getting better, but few people realize how much better and cheaper they would need to be to come close to the power provided by internal combustion engines. Won’t happen any time soon, if ever.


19 posted on 03/11/2012 10:42:43 AM PDT by achilles2000 ("I'll agree to save the whales as long as we can deport the liberals")
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To: NavVet
Doubled the energy density, while cutting costs per KW/H more than in half. If this pans out,an AFFORDABLE electric cars with a 300 mile range could be just around the corner.

More likely, a Chevy Volt will have a range of 70 miles instead of 35.

20 posted on 03/11/2012 10:44:02 AM PDT by umgud (No Rats, No Rino's)
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