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To: piroque

So, the smart and logical thing for him to do was to point a gun at cops?

Read the article. He was likely expecting an attack from rival criminals.

Man killed by SWAT tied to multiple inquiries
http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/2011/06/15/20110615guerena0615.html


192 posted on 03/09/2012 12:33:27 PM PST by donna (Republicans won't change their ways until conservatives draw the line.)
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To: donna

We do not sentence men to die for being ‘tied’ to multiple inquiries.

The bottom line - in the same circumstance, would an innocent man concerned with protecting his family, have been gunned down by the police?

Yes.

Was there any indication that the dead man was a serious criminal, requiring a forced entry?

No. None.

Did they even FIND anything criminal?

No. A gun stolen 3 years before wasn’t likely to be one he stole for himself.

Given that he had family members who had been killed in a home invasion, it is likely he WAS concerned with an attack by criminals. Thus, the cops should not act like criminals breaking down his door. And in fact, he had been interviewed by the police peaceably multiple times prior to the home invasion.

7” is not enough time for a homeowner - particularly one just off a night shift at work - to get out of bed, grab clothes, and get to the front door. But that was all the time Pima SWAT gave him.

BTW - with 71 shots fired at him, I could just about promise that some of the rounds would hit a leading edge of his gun. If not before he went down, afterward. Heck, lots of them went thru the rear wall of his house, and his rear wall sure wasn’t attacking anyone...

Now, want to explain why they didn’t allow paramedics to provide treatment?


194 posted on 03/09/2012 12:42:49 PM PST by Mr Rogers ("they found themselves made strangers in their own country")
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To: donna
He got off work just prior to the raid.

They knew where he worked.

Why not set up in the parking lot with a couple undercover cops, and surprise and arrest the suspect before he got to his vehicle. Walk right by him and whammo...he's under arrest. Then search his home.

What is so difficult about that? Why shoot up a home full of kids and neighbors?

212 posted on 03/09/2012 3:00:19 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: donna; org.whodat
Read POST #193

To: donna Once again, read real slow, he was not breaking the law, the cops had no reason to be there. Officer friendly could have called him and picked him up. No problem. This started with cops kicking down the mans door, he did not call them to come out there and kick down his door. From the time the cops put on their little play military gear it was all wrong and on them, he did not start this confrontation they did. The cops did this not the dead man. 193 posted on Friday, March 09, 2012 2:41:34 PM by org.whodat

213 posted on 03/09/2012 3:01:02 PM PST by piroque ("In times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act")
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