Posted on 03/07/2012 8:01:16 PM PST by dragnet2
For 13 hours after they watched an Orange County sheriff’s deputy fatally shoot their father, the traumatized daughters of Marine Sgt. Manuel Loggins were held for questioning and not allowed to join their mother
The accusation is contained in a claim Dunn said he would file Wednesday with the county, giving notice that the Loggins family plans to file suit in Superior Court against the Sheriff’s Department and the deputy for wrongful death.
An attorney representing Darren Sandberg, identified as the deputy who shot Loggins, declined comment.
Orange County Sheriff Sandra Hutchens declined to comment on the facts of the case, saying the district attorney’s office is investigating. “Everybody wants answers,” she said. “That is what the investigation is for.”
The girls, ages 14 and 9, were in the family SUV with their father when the deputy fired into the vehicle before dawn on Feb. 7. The department said Loggins had crashed through a gate at the parking lot, walked to a nearby athletic field, and then ignored Sandberg’s orders not to restart the SUV.
At first, the department said Sandberg fired out of concern for his own safety but later said Sandberg -– a former Marine -- feared for the girls’ safety.
Loggins had been unarmed.
The girls were held at the Orange County Sheriff’s Department and were not allowed to see their mother until 6 p.m. that day,
“They probably kept asking them over and over and over what was going on till they got the answer they wanted.”
He said Loggins had committed no crime, posed no threat to anyone’s life and that Sandberg shot him “multiple times.”
He worked at Camp Pendleton, and left behind three daughters and a pregnant wife, Phoebe, who gave birth to their fourth daughter days ago.
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Poor girls. Dealing with the trauma of watching their father’s murderer and being interrogated by those who defend the murderer.
There’s something weird and/or missing about this story. Just about anything the LA Times prints you have to be very careful with since just about EVERYTHING they print has been written with one of their agendas in mind.
I think I remember seeing some video on this a couple of weeks ago (Fox News) and it looked weird even then.
Here’s a link to an earlier LA Times story with some extracted language.
http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-marine-shot-20120218,0,1108296.story
“Loggins, who had smashed through a gate to get onto campus and then stalked onto the track, repeatedly failed to heed the commands of the deputy who asked him to stop, and then tried to drive away, authorities said.”
While there may more details coming out on this that cast this in a different light, it does look, based upon the presented facts, as though the cops massively overreacted and the shooting doesn’t appear justified at all.
Seriously? What happened to those who don’t want to comment until the investigation is over?
I suspect that we’re waiting until the investigation is complete. That’s the DA’s investigation, not the (inevitable) press release from the plaintiff’s lawyer.
And just to anticipate the objection, the notion, suggestion, or innuendo that the shooting of an active duty Marine (by another Marine, adding to the tragedy) will be “covered up”, in Orange County, California, the home of both Camp Pendleton and MCRC San Diego is absurd.
The DA will conduct his investigation, and report his findings, and either file charges or not. In the interim, we can count on the civil proceedings being tried in the press by the plaintiff, and for those who are inclined to assume the worst of LE to take the plaintiff’s lawyer’s press releases at face value, and to discount any statement from the Sheriff as obviously self-interested.
The investigation was completed by the OC Sheriffs Department prior to this going to the DA.
Sheriff's Department officers and investigators, investigated this before it ever went to the DA, and in fact, the two young girls were interrogated for about 13 hours the same day of the incident, by Sheriff's investigators.
#1. Tell me, how in tarnation is is possible, two weeks after this incident, the the Orange County Sheriff's Department spokesperson, Jim Amormino stated had no idea what the two girls said?
The only point I was making is that that info wasn’t new.
All the players are accounted for and were within minutes of this incident, including the weapon used by the deputy.
This was one shooting by one deputy at one suspect, with two witnesses in one vehicle, and apparently several other deputy's in the area.
Tell me, what is so complicated, mysterious or complex about this which would cause an investigation to take weeks and weeks and weeks?
It is to me.
I had no idea the Sheriff's investigators interrogated these two young girls, without their own mother present, or legal representation, for about 13 hours, after they watched their father being shot to death.
It is?
It's already been established the OSCD has already changed it's version of events multiple times.
You're suggesting cover-ups, tampering with evidence, witnesses, omitting evidence and lying on investigative reports does not exist in law enforcement?
That's why I posted that I'd heard it before.
Deputy Says He Shot 'Irrational' Marine to Protect Kids in Car Feb. 11Loggins' daughters were also interviewed by investigators, but Amormino said he didn't know what they said or if their story lined up with the deputy's.
That link never mentioned the Sheriff’s investigators interrogated these two young girls, alone, without their own mother present, or legal representation, for about 13 hours, after they watched their father being shot to death.
Nope.
Your naive assumption that the OC DA is an upstanding defender of The People whom he has sworn to serve is laughable.
Go do some research on how he reacted to a gang of cops beating a man to death recently in Fullerton, CA (another OC city). PATHETIC.
His protection of the LE Community at ALL Costs in OC is so obvious it is just beyond words.
Murder.
A long prison sentence is called for.
i'll see that and raise you two young girls [3 counting the friend] witnessing their father shot to death, being held like hostages for 13 hours without their mother or counsel...
I suspect the girls were being told what they had better say about the incident with implications of what the consequences to themselves would be if they said something different.
These things happen far too often these days. I no longer automatically give credence, as I once did, to what the sheriff or police chief says after one of these incidents and when the story changes repeatedly or the shootings are almost instantaneously ruled to be “justified” I now assume the worst.
LEOs have a history of self interest and cover ups. So not trusting their word is hardly unreasonable.
I’ve never seen a sheriff go in front of a camera and say, “my people screwed up and should do 20 to life.”
They always back their own, while complaining that people assume the worst in LE.
LEOs have a history of self interest and cover ups. So not trusting their word is hardly unreasonable.
I’ve never seen a sheriff go in front of a camera and say, “my people screwed up and should do 20 to life.”
They always back their own, while complaining that people assume the worst in LE.
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