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To: Blueflag

You can double down to your heart’s content.

Attempting to give an evaluation when you don’t know the quantity and quality of attackers, nor defenders, is what we in the el toro poopu detection community know as a “guess.”

You want to “bug out?” Fine. But insisting that abandoning all the resources you can’t carry with you, as a matter of course, is just asinine.


36 posted on 03/09/2012 3:35:36 AM PST by papertyger
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To: papertyger

You are welcome to have a different opinion. FReerepublic is about that.

My concern for your position is that *IF* you live in a typical subrban setting, in a typical American stick-built house, etc etc., then you need to think this through better if the nation degrades to a SHTF scenario.

Indeed neither of us ‘knows’ our enemy. I am concerned that you have underestimated your potential if not likely enemies.

Instead of just repeating your disagreement with our plans, I encourage you to evaluate yours.

As a quantitative and qualitative guide to assessing your ability to defend your home, I suggest “Holding Your Ground” by Joe Nobody. It’s on Amazon and Kindle. This book helped us confirm, using sensible rationale and a good ‘spreadsheet’ model, for us, (maybe not you) what we had already leaned heavily towards: that the best place to be in a full SHTF situation is at our place bordering the Nantalhala national forest in NC. We have that option. We can pre-stage items there. *THAT* property *IS* remote, we can monitor ingress, easily situate for overwatch, has its own water, REQUIRES 4-wheel drive to access (or approach on foot or horseback) etc etc etc. It is FAR superior to our ‘typical five-four-and-a-door’ subrban home outside Atlanta.

Seriously, can you confidently and sufficiently address what it takes to SUCCESSFULLY defend your home and SUSTAIN that defense **IF** you need to?

If you can honestly say yes to the queries below, then go for it. We **cannot** so we have a bug out plan.

Does your home offer cover, concealment and ballistic protection.

Do you have enough people to stand guard 24 X 7 X 360 degrees.

Will you have enough people with the right mindset and training to stand guard and repel an attacking force.

Can you prepare and post overwatch.

Can you get water and prepare meals without venturing out for several days

Can youcover and defend muitple points of ingress/ attack.

Can you prevent your ‘castle’ from being burned down by attackers.

IF you or a family member is wounded during an attack, will YOU or they keep fighting?

Do you have a realistic chance of retreating to a rally point and living to fight another day.

Can you maintain an operational tempo in the face of even a low intensity siege

Can you maintain a perimeter and a layered defense.

***IF** it all falls apart, we will all have to live or die based on plans we execute now.

NET: This is our opinion, and our rationale. You need not share it, as your situation may be fundamentally different. If however you are a typical suburban family, then I strongly encourage you to seriously consider contingency plans that include “bug out”.

Have a great Friday.


37 posted on 03/09/2012 6:15:06 AM PST by Blueflag (Res ipsa loquitur: non vehere est inermus)
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