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To: Magic Fingers
I am no fan of Romney’s, but it’s baffling that some hereon would rather keep Obama, who is absolutely, relentlessly dedicated to the destruction of the country. I totally disagree with some of Romney’s policies but I have never thought of him as actually wanting to tear down the U.S. - and like it or not, that’s the choice we may be confronted with. I just can’t relate to the “let’s die quickly and teach them a lesson” concept.

Many people just don't want to send a message during the primaries that Romney is any way tolerable. If those folks say "I hate Romney, but yeah I will hold my nose and vote for him against Obama" it is basically a concession that, in the end, he actually is at least somewhat acceptable. To try to hold the line against Mitt and get a better candidate that is more representative of the conservative/Tea Party grassroots, it is arguably better to not concede that in the end folks would vote for him anyway.

If Romney becomes the nominee things will change. Most conservatives will vote for him in order to get rid of Hussein. People like Sarah Palin will end up aggressively campaigning for him to lock up the base, the media will slant against Mitt to such an extent that the grass roots will rally, Romney will end up on the right side of enough issues, etc, etc.

The real problem with Romney as the nominee (aside from the fact he is not a conservative) is not that he won't get most right of center votes, it's that he generates virtually no enthusiasm from the very people the party needs to mobilize GOTV efforts. It is the grass roots conservatives that go door to do, man phone banks, send out mailers, etc. Mushy moderates, Mitt's real constituency, aren't the kind of people that generate real excitement. If Romney were nominated, I am guessing we will see a Romney/Rubio ticket, so perhaps the combination of Rubio and high profile supporters like Palin might generate the needed level of enthusiasm. I have my doubts though.

61 posted on 03/04/2012 8:30:41 AM PST by Longbow1969
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To: Longbow1969

IF Romney is the nominee - he will copy McCain’s VP selection and choose a dynamic, charismatic conservative to fill in all the gaps in his resume.

Don’t have a clue who is on his radar - but Allen West would be a great choice to keep Romney focused and attract conservative votes as did Sarah Palin.


66 posted on 03/04/2012 8:39:37 AM PST by sodpoodle ( Newt - God has tested him for a reason...... to bring America back from the brink.)
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To: Longbow1969

“Many people just don’t want to send a message during the primaries that Romney is any way tolerable. If those folks say “I hate Romney, but yeah I will hold my nose and vote for him against Obama” it is basically a concession that, in the end, he actually is at least somewhat acceptable. To try to hold the line against Mitt and get a better candidate that is more representative of the conservative/Tea Party grassroots, it is arguably better to not concede that in the end folks would vote for him anyway.”

Good point (I voted for Newt in the AZ primary) - it’s those folks who hate Romney so much they have convinced themselves we’d be better off with Obama for the next 4 years that I don’t understand.


78 posted on 03/04/2012 9:37:05 AM PST by Magic Fingers (Political correctness mutates in order to remain virulent.)
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To: Longbow1969; Magic Fingers; Lazamataz
People of good intention and good faith can disagree. I completely understand the heartfelt sentiment to send Zer0 packing back to Chicago. I share it. Believe me, I share it to the depth of my bones.

But I have to consider the net effect on the country. And a liberal RINO who talks a good game but is at his heart a progressive can be MORE destructive than a leftie Dimocrap.

Let me give you an example (courtesy of FRiend Lazamataz ): In New York State, year after year the Democraps would try to pass a state-level assault rifle ban. Year after year, the New York Senate -- held by Republicans -- would shut the attempt down.

Enter George Pataki as NY Governor. An extraordinarily liberal Republican, the very first year the assault weapons ban was resurrected by the Democraps, he immediately began pressuring the Republicans in the Senate to vote for it.

They did. It passed. Pataki signed it.

Pataki accomplished what 6 years of Democrat governors couldn't.

This is why I have this posted on my profile. I understand if you don't agree, but think hard before you make a decision to pull a lever for Myth.

Why I am NEVER voting for Romney, even if he is the GOP nominee (shudder)

Many people, online and in-person, have started to shrug and say, "Oh well. Looks like Romney's gonna get the Republican nomination. I'll have to hold my nose and vote for him, like I voted for McCain.and all the other RINOs the GOP have shoved at us. After all, if he's only 80-90% like Obama then he's at least a little better than him, right?"

WRONG. and here’s why.

If Myth does 90% of what Zer0 does, he will do it WITH AN R NEXT TO HIS NAME.

What does this do? Well, Republicans in Congress who would otherwise balk at lib legislation if it were proposed by Zer0 WILL SIGN ON TO THE LEGISLATION BECAUSE IT IS PROPOSED BY THE LEADER OF THE GOP.

Imagine: amnesty, “tax fairness”, gutting the military and so much more ALL SAILING THROUGH CONGRESS because a “Republican” is at the helm of America. Contrast this with a second Obozo presidency where the GOP will dig in their heels and at least try to fight.

Yeah, I said it. An Obummer presidency is better for America than a Myth presidency (in the way that a cowpie sandwich is better than a meal of broken glass).

This is why we have to have a NOT-ROMNEY at the top of the ticket if we are to have any hope of digging America out of this hole we’re in. And if we don't, God help us... but I still WON'T vote for him. I'll vote for whichever acceptable, conservative 3rd party candidate is running (so my protest vote will have the most impact), or I'll write one in.

As JimRob says. Romneycare = Obamacare = Commiecare. NO ROMNEY, NO WAY!!
87 posted on 03/04/2012 10:45:00 AM PST by VictoryGal (Never give up, never surrender! REMEMBER NEDA)
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To: Longbow1969

Personally, I don’t care if Ronald Reagan rises from the grave to endorse Romney, I still will NOT vote for Romney. If Rubio accepted being the candidate for VP under Romney, then I won’t ever vote for him either much less on such a ticket. I look forward to Cantor being driven from public life and now Coburn as well. If Sarah Palin endorses Mittens, likewise. Romney is nothing but a useful litmus test. This is not strategic. This is civil war.


95 posted on 03/04/2012 12:56:34 PM PST by BlackElk ( Dean of Discipline ,Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Society. Burn 'em Bright!)
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