Posted on 03/03/2012 4:37:41 PM PST by neverdem
Cold Case Posse
God bless you. I spent 13 months in a rifle company, 1st Marine Division.
Kerry was in RVN a total of four months, one month of which was training at Cam Rhan. Whether intended or not, Kerry reignited all the old conflict and bitterness and mobilized an army of anti-Kerry vets like you and me.
Link below is to an unintentionally hilarious profile of Kerry you're probably familiar with:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A59559-2003May30?language=printer
Sense of integrity or do you just hate cops?
I don’t think selling a book is the right thing at this time.
POS Dems like John fn Kerry always feel entitled to re-write history and their own personnel history in Vietnam too. Going by current trend lines the history books in 2050 will be lying liberal horror shows
ditto. as if they weren’t delegitimized by the LSM enough.
I don't believe The People of Arizona or The People of Maricopa County are going to publish or sell this valuable information.
When retired, however, he can publish and sell "his autobiography". ;)
There is also a time for getting the information out there, and my question for every news outlet that mentions this book is this: How many actual pieces of evidence from the press conference have you reported?
If anybody can show me news articles other than WND articles where the actual evidence (or a summary of the evidence) from that posse is presented for the people to see, or even a link to video of the press conference itself, any reports or interviews with Arpaio about the evidence, etc.... I would dearly like to see it. If the media refuses to report the facts, that means that the only way to get those facts out there to the masses who DON’T read blogs or Free Republic is with a book, movie, or something else that goes through the capitalist means of production and dissemination.
It doesn’t look good at all for this evidence to be sold in a book. But if any news group reports how bad it looks my first and only question for them is this: What facts or evidence have you actually reported so that a book like this was not necessary?
I did, right in the same post to which you replied.
"Never mind, get back to me when they submit one to Sheriff Joe."
So Sheriff Joe is now the final arbiter of what is legit? Really? As long as he gets one it's all good?
According to Hawaii, Sheriff Joe made no request to review any records. Do you think he asked the White House for a copy?
Furthermore, I signed up as butterdezillion using my Facebook account and they will not let me post. They say my password is incorrect. I changed my password successfully and they said THAT password was incorrect also.
They don’t want butterdezillion to be able to say anything about this particular subject.
Just like they don’t want the posse to be able to get FACTS and EVIDENCE into the public sphere. And then people will say that the facts and evidence presented on blogs such as mine are non-credible because those facts have never been reported by “credible news organizations”.
This is censorship - cold, calculated and blatant.
True. The discloseable facts should be reported by the news media.
Some facts were presented at the press conference - stuff like the draft registration having a postal stamp with only 2 digits when all the postal stamps from that post office at that time had 4-digit stamps, or stuff like only the week of Aug 1-7 missing from the National Archives’ microfilms of passenger lists for incoming international flights, the government employee who heard Bill Ayers’ mother introduce Obama as a foreign student, etc.
That stuff should have been reported by the national news media, having been reported through legitimate means at a press conference. Besides WND, what news organization has reported those 3 facts that I just mentioned?
Actually it wasn’t. If you look at the Gaggle report for that day, somebody asked if it would be passed around the room and what they got was laughs. Obama’s counsel actually said that even Obama was not allowed to hold the document.
What WAS passed out to the press was a copy of the COLB printed off the snopes website, a copy of the alleged long-form showing no hash-marks on it whatsoever (and clearly NOT taken from a certified document because when the source document was scanned it was thin enough to show print from a document BEHIND that source document), a copy of the letter from Obama and his counsel requesting 2 certified copies, and a copy of HDOH Director Loretta Fuddy’s response. That’s it. Period.
We know that the white copy the press was given was not from a certified document because of the bleed-through.
We know that the COLB was printed out from the snopes website.
The only person who claims to have seen the actual document was Savannah Guthrie, and she claimed to have seen, felt, and photographed it at a press conference where the White House itself admits that the genuine document never even WAS.
I don’t think there has been ANY MSM source that has reported any facts of the matter. That fact tells me that our Freedom of Press is gone the way of our Freedom of Religion. None of our major news outlets have seen fit to report that after monthes of investigation by seasoned investigators and lawyers, the President’s birth certificate and his Selective Service Registration were determined to be FORGERIES. This should have been headlines in every media outlet. If the press were free, that would be the case. We live in interesting times. Pray
The gaggle report can be found at http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2011/04/27/press-gaggle-press-secretary-jay-carney-4272011
The pertinent part is this:
“Q And this is going to sound — I mean, you can just anticipate what people are going to — remain unconvinced. They’re going to say that this is just a photocopy of a piece of paper, you could have typed anything in there. Will the actual certificate be on display or viewable at any — (laughter.)
Q Will the President be holding it?
MR. PFEIFFER: He will not, and I will not leave it here for him to do so. But it will — the State Department of Health in Hawaii will obviously attest that that is a — what they have on file. As Bob said, it’s in a book in Hawaii.
MR. BAUER: And you’ll see the letter from the director of the Health Department that states that she oversaw the copy and is attesting to —
Q But do you understand that this could quiet the conspiracy theorists?
MR. PFEIFFER: There will always be some selection of people who will believe something, and that’s not the issue. The issue is that this is not a discussion that is just happening among conspiracy theorists. It’s happening here in this room; it’s happening on all of the networks. And it’s something that, as I said, every major political figure of both parties who’s actually out trying to talk about real issues is asked about this by the media. And so the President decided to release this. And I’ll leave it to others to decide whether there’s still — there will be some who still have a different — have a conspiracy about this.
Q You’ve got two certified copies, according to this study. You have these physical —
MR. PFEIFFER: Yes. I showed you one. Just one.
Q You showed us a photocopy of one.
MR. PFEIFFER: No, I showed you —
Q Does that have a stamp?
MR. PFEIFFER: It has a seal on it. “
The reporter considered that the photocopy the media members were given was what Pfeiffer “showed” them because whatever Pfeiffer had in his hand was not accessible to them. There’s no way the reporters knew what that document really looked like, or whether it had a seal on it. That’s why Obama’s people made photocopies for the media to look at. But the photocopies the media were given were NOT from a document that had security cross-hatches on it, because the copies had bleed-through from a paper that was behind the paper that was being copied (which wouldn’t happen if what they photocopied was on security paper).
Seems like WND is the only media outlet that will report the facts/evidence. And most people will never see WND.
I bet Zullo would be THRILLED to talk to any national news reporter about the evidence he’s got in that book, if any were willing to actually report it. I’m sure he’d gladly give that information to the public for free if there were any free outlets that were willing to put it out there for him.
I work in the entertainment industry. It’s patently obvious some cops actively direct investigations from the get-go with an eye to trading on their status as “lead investigator” or the “the guy who caught ____” by writing books or movies containing PRIVILEGED information, gathered at the behest of the GOVERNMENT.
Everything and anything connected with government — and make no mistake, this is a GOVERNMENT investigation — being for sale is the hallmark of third world crapholes.
Oh, and “do I just hate cops?” Um, do your parents know you’re using their computer while they’re out?
Perhaps you didn't follow the story close enough to discover that the investigators were retired LEOs and such and most of the work was volunteered - no taxpayer funds went into it. That should make any reasonable person understand that there's nothing wrong with them telling the story - else it might never all become available to the public.
Let's see about the cop-hating issue. You said, "This goes for every chiseling cop who got a book or movie deal about a serial killer. You’re a public employee and you have access to information only in your capacity as a public employee. You have no right to trade on it."
I can't possibly see how someone might infer that you have something against cops by the "chiseling cop" portion. My parents are both deceased and I'm grown up enough to get by without parental oversight. You, however seem to have a penchant for unbridled childish remarks. The First Amendment applies to fools and wise men alike, so please carry on.
"No problemo, right?"
It was passed around the briefing room the day of the White House press conference. There were photos taken of it. You can see one here:
http://lockerz.com/s/96540937
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Because it is now a criminal investigation, can the Arizona sheriff now officially seek to see Obama's long form birth certificate in the Hawaii archives for himself, the one Hawaii officials say is bound in a book with other long form birth certificates?
If the sheriff can gain access to Hawaii archives because he is conducting a criminal investigation, then, at the very least, he would not have to depend on the long form released by the Whited House in April 2011, and he can also compare the one in the Hawaii archives to the one released by President Obama in April 2011.
However, if Hawaii officials play hardball with the sheriff and tell him that there is no way outside of a court order that they will allow him to look at Obama's long form certificate in the archives because of privacy laws even though the sheriff is conducting a criminal investigation, then we can only conclude that Hawaii officials are trying to hide information on that birth certificate that would show that Obama has been lying about his background all this time.
No, they sell coffee mugs that say “Made in the USA” ... which is probably true. Obama’s forged birth certificate was probably MADE in the U.S. It’s funny that they didn’t say BORN in the USA on the mugs. Evidently Obama needs some plausible deniability.
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