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Investigators now in hunt for forger
WND ^ | March 02, 2012 | Bob Unruh

Posted on 03/02/2012 10:01:11 PM PST by Smokeyblue

Members of the Cold Case Posse in Maricopa County, Ariz., whose report to Sheriff Joe Arpaio yesterday confirmed there is probable cause to believe Barack Obama’s much-ballyhooed birth certificate document is a forgery, have begun briefing members of the county law enforcement team who may be involved in hunting for those responsible.

At a news conference yesterday, Arpaio and the chief investigator for the specially appointed Cold Case Posse, Mike Zullo, confirmed that they had found evidence of forgery in the creation of the birth certificate image and fraud in the presentation of that piece of work as a real government document.

They also said they found Obama’s Selective Service registration likely forged, and they said it appeared as though officials in Hawaii were covering up information about Obama. They also said it was not outside the realm of possibility that Obama might have been born overseas.

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While he said that decision remained in the future, sources told WND today that the Cold Case Posse, a team of volunteers not being paid by taxpayers, were briefing sheriff’s office investigators on the status of evidence, so that they might be able to participate in the future as those responsible for the fraud and forgery uncovered already might be pursued.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: arpaio; birthcertificate; birther; certifigate; joearpaio; naturalborncitizen; obama
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To: Hotlanta Mike

Sorry man, but I need at least SOME evidence before I will believe a conspiracy theory, not just wishful thinking. Nobody has offered a shred of evidence that Harris was connected in any meaningful way to Obama or Brennan. All we know for sure is that he was running a credit card scam, apparently with help from someone in the State department. We already know that Brennan accessed the passport files himself, he didn’t need any help from street criminal Harris to do that.

The only reason to try and conflate the two stories, is to make the superficial appearance that Harris may have been killed because he knew something about the Brennan case. That’s what the Washington Times did. However, since there is no evidence of that, once birthers started repeating that story, they were made to look like fools. In other words, the Washington Times successfully “punked” the birthers, whether it was intentional or unintentional. We shouldn’t be perpetuating our own embarassment now that it is plain to see what happened.


61 posted on 03/03/2012 9:24:29 AM PST by Boogieman
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To: cynwoody

You’ve just trashed that primary source. Now why not educate us about it? Tell us why a Hawaii BC is less reliable than, say, a Washington State BC? (and no need to be respectful in the telling, LOL!)


For one thing they registered foreign born birth’s as Hawaiian. The cover-up in HI has more to dod with systematic immigration/citizenship fraud perpetrated by HI officials.


62 posted on 03/03/2012 9:35:50 AM PST by Hotlanta Mike (TeaNami)
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To: Boogieman

You’re confusing FR with a court of law.


63 posted on 03/03/2012 9:43:04 AM PST by Hotlanta Mike (TeaNami)
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To: Boogieman
The only reason to try and conflate the two stories, is to make the superficial appearance that Harris may have been killed because he knew something about the Brennan case. That’s what the Washington Times did. However, since there is no evidence of that, once birthers started repeating that story, they were made to look like fools. In other words, the Washington Times successfully “punked” the birthers, whether it was intentional or unintentional. We shouldn’t be perpetuating our own embarassment now that it is plain to see what happened.

Exactly. The Harris saga is an example of a lie attaining low earth orbit before the truth can get his pants on.

Accidentally or on purpose, the Washington Times launched the story by abbreviating Harris's misspelled, comical first name, making it look like a military or police title, while also mentioning their earlier story about improper access to the passport records of Hillary Clinton, Obama, and McCain. Thus, they promoted Harris far beyond his station in life, which was that of small-time identity thief.

Harris had been busted by the DC Police after having been found in possession of 21 credit cards not his own and printouts of eight passport applications, four of which had names found among the phony credit cards. Harris told the police he was working with an accomplice employed at State and another with the US Postal Service. He agreed to help roll up the conspiracy. He was rubbed out before that could happen.

64 posted on 03/03/2012 11:08:18 AM PST by cynwoody
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To: cynwoody

“a lie attaining low earth orbit”... I like that, it’s a good description of how fast a story can take hold in the internet age. By the time the first sensible person has heard it and voiced a reasonable objection, it’s already gone global.


65 posted on 03/03/2012 11:16:21 AM PST by Boogieman
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To: Smokeyblue
President Obama: Why doesn't he cooperate fully with the Arizona investigation if he had nothing to do with the alleged forgery?

If I were in President Obama's place and knew that I had nothing to do with any tampering of my long form birth certificate, I would be the first person to offer to help the Arizona sheriff in any way I could.

But if the President of the United States, Obama, refuses to help and plays hardball, then I can only conclude that President Obama is hiding something.

For instance, the Selective Service application form: Obama's signature looks nothing like his signature today.

So Obama could help the Arizona sheriff by voluntarily coming forward and swearing under oath something like this: "Yes, that is my signature from 1980, although my signature seems to have dramatically changed over the years."

But, again, if the President of the United States plays hardball with the Arizona investigation, then I can only conclude that the President of the United States is indeed hiding something.

66 posted on 03/03/2012 12:43:10 PM PST by john mirse
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To: cynwoody
It either matches what’s on file in Hawaii or it doesn’t.
The problem with that thinking is that no outside body has been allowed to see the file in Hawaii to compare the data.
67 posted on 03/03/2012 1:20:11 PM PST by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: cynwoody
The definition of lame is to go after a PDF secondary source when there is a primary, authoritative source available.
The definition of lame is having a State agency stonewall the release of a primary, authoritative source which, to this day, is still unavailable for viewing by any outside body.
68 posted on 03/03/2012 1:31:53 PM PST by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Smokeyblue
My immediate thought was...where are the backups? This is the government we're talking about.
Everything is in duplicate or triplicate.
69 posted on 03/03/2012 1:34:27 PM PST by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: drpix

See #69.


70 posted on 03/03/2012 1:43:14 PM PST by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: bert

The reasoning is that the forgery was presented nationwide, so some Maricopa county citizens were deceived and defrauded by the act, no matter where the forgery occurred.


71 posted on 03/03/2012 1:43:19 PM PST by Boogieman
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To: Hotlanta Mike

No, I’m just not confusing FR with some forum where one can post nonsense without expecting to have it smacked down.


72 posted on 03/03/2012 1:44:26 PM PST by Boogieman
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To: Smokeyblue

Just curious - let’s assume there is a forger - some mid level person with some computer/graphics skills.

Let’s also assume that Arpio’s posse is correct in their assumptions (that the crime of forgery occurred), and the posse is closing in on being able to identify the forger.

Given those assumptions - and the ramifications of exposure of this whole plot, if true.

Then what is the life expectancy of the forger?

What is the best way for this mid-level foot soldier to survive?


My take is that if this is true life expectancy is measured in days, and the only way to survive is to come clean in a very public way, ASAP.

The only alternative is to hope the truth stays hidden.

(Judith L Corely, please pick up the white courtesy phone.)


73 posted on 03/03/2012 2:23:47 PM PST by Triple (Socialism denies people the right to the fruits of their labor, and is as abhorrent as slavery)
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To: 1_Rain_Drop

I think they have to look no further then the Perkins Coie attorney that brought the paper copy back from Hawaii. I think that the first person to chat with is Judith L Corely.

Her contact info is posted on the WH website in the Letter to Hawaii, which is part of the April 27 LFCOLB story.

Good luck Judith...


74 posted on 03/03/2012 2:37:16 PM PST by Triple (Socialism denies people the right to the fruits of their labor, and is as abhorrent as slavery)
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To: Tex-Con-Man

May we all be Breitbarted.


75 posted on 03/03/2012 5:14:52 PM PST by El Sordo (The bigger the government, the smaller the citizen.)
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To: Boogieman

Nonsense? And you use the handle boogieman?


76 posted on 03/03/2012 6:08:25 PM PST by Hotlanta Mike (TeaNami)
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To: Hotlanta Mike

Yes, nonsense. That is what I call trotting out a long-debunked story that only serves to divert attention from the actual issues concerned. If I see someone post that, and I can correct the misinformation, I will. I expect other FReepers to do me the same favor if I make that error too.

What’s my handle have to do with anything?


77 posted on 03/03/2012 8:18:34 PM PST by Boogieman
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To: cynwoody

True, and this will happen eventually. There is only one thing that is absolutely certain in the Birther Debate. The PDF file that is even now being displayed on the White House website is a fraudulent non-document, because softward cyberspace creations are not tangible instruments.


78 posted on 03/03/2012 8:38:38 PM PST by HMS Surprise (Chris Christie can still go to hell.)
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To: bert

Easy. The document is being used to establish that Obama is eligible to run for President in Arizona. It is therefore creating victims of every Arizona citizen.


79 posted on 03/03/2012 8:41:01 PM PST by HMS Surprise (Chris Christie can still go to hell.)
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To: HMS Surprise
because softward cyberspace creations are not tangible instruments.

Actually, a cyberspace instrument could be made far more secure than a physical piece of paper with a rubber stamp and a raised seal, not to mention a scan of the same converted to a PDF.

Birth certificate registrars should scan all their documents at high resolution and put them on an HTTPS web server. Then, if someone needs their birth certificate to get a passport or get on a presidential ballot, they could ask the registrar to create a URL to their BC. This they could give to the State department or post on whitehouse.gov. Because of HTTPS, anyone viewing the BC via the URL would be assured the document they are examining on their monitor is really what's on file with the registrar.

HTTPS eliminates the man in the middle. In this case, the man in the middle is Obama and his minions, who had the opportunity to do who knows what to the document between the time it left Hawaii and the time the WH showed it off to the world.

80 posted on 03/03/2012 9:05:12 PM PST by cynwoody
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