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To: ansel12

“So you admit that we really can restrict these guys lives, tell them what kind of work they can’t do, which businesses they can’t run, perhaps where they cannot live, who they can associate with”

It’s done all the time, whether you are a convicted ex-felon or not.

People are stopped from opening businesses all the time, either by town ‘restrictions’ or city ordnances.

Job restrictions are done all the time by either not ‘qualifying’ or ‘choice’ of the employer.

So, we either restrict the rights of everyone or of none...

“I would say that the MS-13 gang enforcer who we suspect of countless crimes but only convict for a 2nd degree murder, could be released from prison with some restrictions, like not being caught carrying weapons again.”

I never said the law was ‘fair’, I merely pointed out the possibilities ‘within’ the law.

If you want the law to be ‘fair’ then you have to apply them consistently across the board.

If you wouldn’t want your rights taken away, then why would you want others rights taken?

You may not like it, but if you’ve paid your ‘debt to society’ then all or your rights should be restored.

“I don’t want them voting either”.

Then lobby your Senator or Congressman to change the law because an EX-cons voting rights are restored once their sentence is completed.


23 posted on 03/02/2012 8:54:07 AM PST by Bigh4u2 (Denial is the first requirement to be a liberal)
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To: Bigh4u2

I don’t know what you were calling fair or unfair, why should an MS-13 gang enforcer be allowed to pack on release, and when did this 1960s liberal agenda become part of conservatism, is this the corroding effect of the so called libertarianism?

The left (and libertarians) has been busy since I was a kid, the left has managed to make being a felon more respectable and mainstream, I’m pretty sure that felons couldn’t vote in most states when I was a kid. Personally I want voting more restricted, and more difficult.

From wiki-”As of July 2007, fourteen states, eleven of them in the South, ban anyone with a felony conviction from voting for life, even after the person has served the sentence”


26 posted on 03/02/2012 9:29:53 AM PST by ansel12 (Newt Gingrich knows how to deconstruct Obama in a head to head race, and that is what it will take.)
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