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Push to give George Washington his birthday back
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Posted on 02/29/2012 6:03:44 PM PST by nuconvert

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1 posted on 02/29/2012 6:03:48 PM PST by nuconvert
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Can’t do that. Martin Luther King was so much more important than our Founding Fathers...

Gage mme.

Look, I think King did some important things and deserves to be recognized for it. A whole day dedicated to him? I’m not buying it.

Bring back George Washington’s birthday.

Relegate King to his proper status.


2 posted on 02/29/2012 6:08:07 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Abortion? No. Gov't heath care? No. Gore on warming? No. McCain on immigration? No.)
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Lately I've heard some things about George Washington as a slave owner that I really didn't care for - things that really had the ring of truth to them. I'm going to have to learn more about Washington before I'm ready to set him back up on that pedestal. And, if he was indeed the superb human being that he is credited as being, I'm sure he would understand fully.

I've got one of his bios on my Amazon wish list - I'll have it on its way tonight. :)

3 posted on 02/29/2012 6:14:13 PM PST by The Duke
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To: The Duke
Read James Flexner’s & Brookhiser’s works on Washington!
4 posted on 02/29/2012 6:19:46 PM PST by Reily
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To: The Duke

Really? Anything in p[articular?

Over the last five or six years I began reading as much as I could not only about Washington, but about that entire period, and apart from owning slaves (which wasn’t much different from other men of his station) I didn’t see much to change what became a deep admiration and appreciation of the man.

He was extraordinary by any standard, yesterday’s or today’s.


5 posted on 02/29/2012 6:27:36 PM PST by rlmorel ("A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject." Winston Churchill)
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To: nuconvert

Absolutely agree. There are so many presidents who don’t deserve a holiday, but George certainly does.


6 posted on 02/29/2012 6:28:25 PM PST by varina davis (A real American patriot -- Gov. Rick Perry)
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To: nuconvert
Wolf's only halfway there. If you recall, back before "Presidents Day" we had an individual holiday for both Washington and Lincoln. Bring 'em both back!



Nos genuflectitur ad non princeps sed Princeps Pacem!

Listen, O isles, unto me; and hearken, ye people, from far; The LORD hath called me from the womb; from the bowels of my mother hath he made mention of my name. (Isaiah 49:1 KJV)

7 posted on 02/29/2012 6:39:47 PM PST by ConorMacNessa (HM/2 USN, 3/5 Marines RVN 1969 - St. Michael the Archangel defend us in Battle!)
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To: The Duke

Those men lived in a different age. I’ve heard that in the day the United States had something like 5% of the world’s slaves. I’m not sure how accurate that is. I do know that no other nation on the planet has exhibited even a smidgen of the angst the U. S. does regarding slavery.

Washington had slaves. Jefferson had slaves. Other Founding Fathers probably did too. Do you know how those slaves were treated? They may have been treated more like family members than true slaves. Their living standard in the day may have been quite a bit higher than the average colonist. That doesn’t mitigate the idea that they were servants, and not free to leave. I will grant you that.

I don’t think I could have ever bought off on owning other human beings, but I would suspect it would depend on how I was raised, and how my family treated slaves during my formative years. Some families mistreated their slaves, and others treated them with a reasonable amount of respect.

As angry as some people get about slavery, it’s baffles me that you never hear of complaints about nations today, where slavery still exists. Have you ever heard a special interest group complain about that?

In the day, our nation was founded while not addressing slavery. Despite that, the Founding Documents were drafted with language that was bound to cause slavery to be addressed in time. It was. It was abolished.

Our Founders who drew up our Founding Documents cannot be dismissed for the contribution that made to this eventuality.

I think it peeves Liberals today that the United States exists at all. Trashing our Founders comes naturally to them.

I visited my fifth grade niece’s school room about ten years ago. One the wall was a student mural. It was about 2” (tall) x 8” in size. Washington was sitting on a horse, barely able to fit top to bottom. Lincoln was standing up, and barely able to fit top to bottom. Martin Luther King only had his face on the mural, and it barely fit top to bottom.

Guess what our kids are being taught.

Washington and our Founding Fathers risked their fortunes, lives, and future for you and I. King did that too, but only for a thin slice of our nation’s citizens. As I said, he deserves recognition, but at the expense of our Founding Fathers, no damn way.


8 posted on 02/29/2012 6:41:50 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Abortion? No. Gov't heath care? No. Gore on warming? No. McCain on immigration? No.)
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Let King have his own holiday but for God’s sake Washington is the epitome of great Americans Without him there would be no country. The Founding Fathers worked hard to give us all this country Washing ‘s Darkest Hour was his time in Valley Forge. Reads it and teach it to our children.


9 posted on 02/29/2012 7:19:09 PM PST by RightLady (Liberty above all)
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To: DoughtyOne

Let King have his own holiday but for God’s sake Washington is the epitome of great Americans Without him there would be no country. The Founding Fathers worked hard to give us all this country Washing ‘s Darkest Hour was his time in Valley Forge. Reads it and teach it to our children.


10 posted on 02/29/2012 7:19:22 PM PST by RightLady (Liberty above all)
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To: rlmorel
What I heard about Washington on one of the history/discovery type channels last week was that one of his slaves escaped and would not return when Washington would not commit to let her keep her child.

His slave was assisted by an anti-slavery group that was pretty prevlent at the time, which suggests that slavery wasn't simply "the way things were".

In fact, the program went on to say that, as he was dying, Washington changed his will to specify that his slaves would be free after his wife died. This was also an indicator that he knew he was "in the wrong".

After Washington died his wife immediately freed all the slaves out of fear for her own life (because the slaves would have a vested interest in her own demise). This indicates that the slaves were not at all happy with the arrangement.

The interaction and history that Washington had with his slaves, as well as the fact that an underground railroad was already established, just suggests that, as a nation, we already knew that slavery was profoundly wrong.

11 posted on 02/29/2012 7:24:15 PM PST by The Duke
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To: nuconvert
100% for this.

Washington was the “Indispensable Man.”

Oldplayer

12 posted on 02/29/2012 7:41:44 PM PST by oldplayer
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To: nuconvert
100% for this.

Washington was the “Indispensable Man.”

Oldplayer

13 posted on 02/29/2012 7:41:59 PM PST by oldplayer
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To: nuconvert
100% for this. (For many years.)

Washington was the “Indispensable Man.” (James Flexner’s words)

Oldplayer

14 posted on 02/29/2012 7:44:58 PM PST by oldplayer
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To: nuconvert
100% for this. (For many years.)

Washington was the “Indispensable Man.” (James Flexner’s words)

Oldplayer

15 posted on 02/29/2012 7:45:09 PM PST by oldplayer
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To: oldplayer

Sorry. I know how to post singularly. Keyboard issue.


16 posted on 02/29/2012 7:46:43 PM PST by oldplayer
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To: nuconvert

And while we’re at it, let’s push for the other great president’s February birthday to be recognized, Pres. Ronald Reagan, born on February 6th.


17 posted on 02/29/2012 7:48:10 PM PST by txrefugee
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To: nuconvert
just what we need....ANOTHER federal holiday for the govt worker class...screw the rest of us....

NO MORE!

18 posted on 02/29/2012 7:51:49 PM PST by cherry
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no more federal holidays....no more days off from school....no more 3 and 4 day holiday weekends for the govt class....

and this is so typical of republicans...our country is in bankruptcy and we have a shallow,stupid population that is growing in shallowness and stupidness every day, Iran wants to blow us and Israel up, and yet we have republicans talking about more holidays...

next they'll introduce the flag burning amendment and prayer in school....

19 posted on 02/29/2012 7:55:00 PM PST by cherry
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To: DoughtyOne
Look, I think King did some important things and deserves to be recognized for it.

Like what? Stealing his dissertation? Plagiarism is stealing. Beating up the prostitutes he hired? Committing adultery?

20 posted on 02/29/2012 7:58:02 PM PST by ladyjane
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