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To: Ghost of Philip Marlowe
Saying that the prevention of sin is not the proper nor effective province of government is not “to toy with sin.”

It is the proper province of CHRISTIANS to protect that element of the culture that best reflects Biblical values.

Absolutely - but not by force, which is government's stock in trade.

If you loading a pistol with one bullet and hand that gun to others to play Russian roulette (especially children),

As I pointed out in post #30, since kids report that they can now get marijuana more easily than cigarettes or beer, it follows that the best way to restict their access to drugs is to make them legal for adults only (thus giving those who sell to adults a disincentive to sell to kids - namely, the loss of their legal adult market).

liberty will only endure as long as there is a moral code of voluntary individual restraint.

Irrelevant to drug criminalization, which is a LEGAL code of INvoluntary restraint.

But you need to understand that you are ideologically in bed with those nannies you claim to despise.

Nannies wear pants - does that mean I should stop wearing pants?

62 posted on 03/20/2012 8:30:32 AM PDT by JustSayNoToNannies (A free society's default policy: it's none of government's business.)
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To: JustSayNoToNannies

Are you kidding me?

Again, you can’t possibly be that perfectly illogical, can you?

Jesus had dinner with the sinners, but while he was there, he preached against sin, he did not condone the sin, he did not engage in the sin.

To legalize those substances that are so powerful (remember, you said NO restrictions on the manufacture, sale, and use of ANY drug) that destroy lives and families condones a behavior that leads people away from God and into darkness.

You’ll say, “Baseless hysteria.”

And I’ll say, Jesus had to die on the cross because of mankind’s desire to sin. What What Biblical teaching asks us in return is to show gratitude by avoiding that self-centered behavior that leads us and others away from God.

In America, the people decide the laws (supposedly). Enacting a law prohibiting an action is not the same as forcing a people to act. If you don’t see that difference, then you are either not intelligent enough to follow this discussion, or you are, as I said, nothing more than a leftist agitator trying to split up conservatives and push your leftist agenda.

And as I asked in previous posts, if that is your Christian and Biblical response to sinful behavior, what ELSE do you want to completely UNrestrict? Prostitution? Same-sex marriage (where is your Biblical approval of that?)? Pornography in the grocery stores?

‘A legal code of involuntary restraint’

OK, so the murder rate has increased over the past century. Should we just legalize murder? How about car theft?

You keep stepping back and forth over the line you have drawn around your argument. On the one hand, you claim that the majority of people who share a common culture should not pass laws that restrict behavior that they consider harmful to individuals and especially to society at large (which results in individual behavior harming the lives of others) and then you try to cross back over the line and state that the laws themselves are causing the behavior and that in order to eliminate that behavior, we should just eliminate the laws.

This is just silly at this point.

Our drugs criminalizing recreational drug manufacture, sale, and use seek to limit a substance and behavior that anyone (who is being honest) will acknowledge has been historically harmful to the lives of individuals and society at-large. Lifting those laws (even somewhat, such as legalizing pot — we don’t even have to go as far as you suggest and remove ALL drug laws) will make drugs more prevalent in society and lowers the Durkheim constant, which will tacitly imply that recreational drug-usage is acceptable. Aside from the effect this has had in other countries in regard to addiction, increased crime, unemployment, and the expansion of government (those nannies you claim to loathe), such an action flies in the face of our basic Judeo-Christian morality and responsibilities.

You can continue to copy-and-paste my comments and reply, but your replies have become redundant and circular and you are defeating your own argument.


63 posted on 03/21/2012 5:58:33 AM PDT by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Prepare for survival. (Ron Paul is the Lyndon Larouche of the 21st century.))
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