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Posted on 02/24/2012 11:18:47 PM PST by EnglishCon
The Church does not "own" marriage nor have the exclusive right to say who can marry, a government minister has said.
Equalities minister Lynne Featherstone said the government was entitled to introduce same-sex marriages, which she says would be a "change for the better".
Her comments come as ministers prepare to launch a public consultation on legalising gay marriage next month.
Traditionalists want the law on marriage to remain unchanged.
(Excerpt) Read more at bbc.co.uk ...
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>> The Church does not “own” marriage nor have the exclusive right to say who can marry, a government minister has said.
Like I said, the govt nor its parasitic scumbags should have the right to define marriage. Get govt out of the marriage business.
The government DOES own marriage because the government licenses marriage.
Conservatives need to admit that.
And conservatives need to get the government completely out of marriage: no government licenses, just private marriage contracts binding only upon the man and the woman who sign that contract.
I agree with this witch, provided that the government no longer has any say in religious marriage ceremonies. We’d have healthier families if the state didn’t make it extremely risky for a guy to stick his neck out, only to find himself ten years later paying for a home he doesn’t live in, barely seeing his children that still live there with their mother and some strange man. It is time for God and Caesar to part ways on the whole marriage question; the state can have people marrying their pervert-mates or pets with the corresponding legal contract, and the Church can have marriage on their terms in a religious sense, and there should be no overlap of the two.
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*eyeroll*
I’m very suspicious of this particular trope, because it makes no sense: Of course the church doesn’t “own” marriage. The existence of civil marriage ceremonies would seem to establish this as a self-evident fact. I think something else is going on.
I think it’s a way for government to force churches to marry same-sex couples whether they want to or not.
I know.
Makes me want to cry sometimes, the state of this once great nation.
Agreed.
And as our Lord Jesus also said:
Matthew 19:4-6 And HE answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that HE which made them at the beginning made them male and female, And said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh? Wherefore they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder.
But given that the Church is the people of God (founded on the Prophets, and Apostles, and our Chief Cornerstone, our Lord Jesus Christ) ... the Church has the best claim to minister the institution of marriage on Earth.
>> It is time for God and Caesar to part ways on the whole marriage question
I like that.
>> I think it’s a way for government to force churches to marry same-sex couples whether they want to or not.
Exactly.
Oddly, this story was sent to me by an old friend from my teaching days.
He is gay - not camp or outrageous, just gay - has lived with his partner for 25 years and HE is totally outraged by it.
He thinks government should stay out of the bedroom. Marriage is defined by the Church and has no need to be licenced or regulated by man at all.
He put it much harsher than that, but I have been warned about my language on here before, so you’ll forgive me for not posting his exact words. Suffice it to say I expected my laptop screen to burst into flames.
Well said and worth repeating as loudly and as often as possible.
The government, through the consent of the governed, gives consent for marriage. It does not create marriage.
Nor does it have the right to run a pen through the definition of marriage to make a fridge group feel accepted.
Marriage is the union of a man and a woman in matrimony.
Marriage is the union of man and woman into one for the purpose of bearing and raising children.
The family is the oldest institution on Earth, predating tribalism. The core of what we are. No government ever has the right to change that, regulate that, or approve that.
The left have an unhealthy, nay unholy, obsession with what happens behind closed doors. It is sickening to me. When I got married - like most people - I gave my vows. My word of honor to the woman I love. Still love, trust and respect after 30 odd years.
I don’t need government telling me that my word is provisional, or that they can define the meanings of what I said. Like most here, to me those words are sacred. A trust that you simply cannot break, because breaking those vows breaks you.
All 30 years were odd?
/ Gracie Allen
They might just as well call it MiniEqual...
Some of them were extremely odd!
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