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U.S. Bulks Up Iran Defenses
Fox News ^ | 2/22/2012 | Fox News

Posted on 02/24/2012 10:28:56 PM PST by U-238

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Qom - Uranium enrichment plant

IAEA says work started on Qom site earlier than Iran suggests In January 2012, Iran said it had begun uranium enrichment at the heavily fortified site of Fordo near the holy city of Qom.

It had revealed the existence of the facility, about 30km (20 miles) north of the city, in September 2009.


21 posted on 02/25/2012 10:50:15 AM PST by mulder1 ("The past is prologue.")
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To: af_vet_rr

Actually it is that simple with tax credits. If a local farmer can do his own conversions and save money by using natural gas without getting a tax credit think about what would happen if Detroit could count on buyers getting a tax credit. Consumers could get a $2,000 credit for installing a small CNG compressor at home.and a credit for buying a vehicle. Credits would also be available for those that added a refuel station to their current business location.

I haven’t done the math, but my guess is that gasoline would have to drop well under $3.00 per gallon to be competitive. This country would have a surplus of gasoline to export. Oil at current prices cannot compete with natural gas until it drops to a much lower level.

Passing the natural gas act will have a domino effect that will continue long into the future. The Arabs aren’t going to be happy. Neither is Chavez.

The point is that to use natural gas for automotive fuel, you don’t need a refinery to process it. Guess who that bypasses? The farmer used natural gas straight out of a well located on his property and used a surplus medical oxygen compressor to refuel his vehicles.


22 posted on 02/25/2012 10:53:47 AM PST by meatloaf (Support House Bill 1380 to eliminate oil slavery.)
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To: tanknetter

Right, I was just replying to PIF that it would be possible, to hit Iran from West or East coasts....but why not just launch from a sub in the Persian Gulf.


23 posted on 02/25/2012 1:48:22 PM PST by IamCenny
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To: meatloaf
On huge obstacle is that if you bypass the refineries or anything that takes the multinational oil corporations out of the loop or reduces their profit, they will get upset and throw a bunch of money at the critters in Congress who then do their best to make sure that those corporations continue making lots of profits at the expense of you and I.

In a contest between you and me versus the multinational and foreign corporations and their bought-and-paid-for lackeys in Congress, you and I will end up with the short end of the stick.

Even when we put the critters in Congress back in their place when they get too uppity and show their true colors as that of paid lackeys of large corporations, what do we do? We turn around and reelect them.

Look at Lamar Smith (R-TX), his district is right up against where I live, and I own property in his district. That little scumbag's biggest contributor is Hollywood and he introduced the SOPA crap. We made it clear he didn't want it and what does he do? He publicly declares he will bring it back up again at a later date. Now hopefully he will get the boot, because he pissed off a lot of people, people who might not normally vote, but the fact that we threw SOPA back in his face and he still had the gall to say he wasn't finished trying to get it pushed throw shows the biggest problem with Congress.

Until we truly start booting lots of people out of Congress, we will always have that obstacle of them being bought off by large corporations. We can stop them here and there, but they are going to come right back at us. The Lamar Smiths of the world are too firmly in the pockets of big companies. They don't give a damn about you or me, they give a damn about the lobbyists and companies throwing a lot of money their way because all they care about is their next election.
24 posted on 02/25/2012 3:11:42 PM PST by af_vet_rr
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Shorten the lead time and improve accuracy to be sure we hit a precise point. Also reduces the risk if the missile fails.

We can still do this, apparently.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltC18q4Td4A

Of course the original reason was to ensure that some minuteman missiles would survive to be launched in return...


25 posted on 02/25/2012 3:53:48 PM PST by ltc8k6
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To: af_vet_rr

Are you aware that both Exxon and Chevron bought into natural gas?


26 posted on 02/25/2012 4:07:33 PM PST by meatloaf (Support House Bill 1380 to eliminate oil slavery.)
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Based on the Maersk Alabama incident where the captain basically flipped Obozo the bird ... ain’t going to happen. Asking permission that is.


27 posted on 02/25/2012 4:10:12 PM PST by meatloaf (Support House Bill 1380 to eliminate oil slavery.)
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Are you aware that both Exxon and Chevron bought into natural gas?

Assuming that when you say the Natural Gas Act, you are talking about the Natural Gas Act that was brought up in 2008 by Inhofe, and then again about 8 or 9 months ago, are you aware that the biggest opponents of the NGA are the Koch brothers, who, drum roll please, are heavily invested in oil, pipelines, and refineries.

All it takes is a few large companies to oppose something, or in this case a couple of billionaire brothers with a lot of money sunk into oil, pipelines, and refineries, and service companies, and it's not going to happen. They didn't even have to enlist the support of the coal industry or any of the other oil companies.

I wish I could be as optimistic as you, but Congress is too easy to buy off.

The fact that T. Boone Pickens is involved with the NGA would make me pause. He doesn't support stuff unless he's going to make a lot of money, usually at the expense of others and usually when there's little to no risk for him.
28 posted on 02/25/2012 4:21:55 PM PST by af_vet_rr
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There are obviously some that will win big and some that could lose big by encouraging a feasible alternative to gasoline. As long as OPEC gets screwed when the demand for oil to refine gasoline goes down, I’m happy. I understand that below $80/bbl the Iranian mullahs start sucking wind. It wouldn’t hurt my feelings a bit if a huge drop in oil prices ended up with mullahs getting eliminated by the Persian people.

Of course having access to free natural gas and getting the government to pay for my compressor would bring a smile too.


29 posted on 02/25/2012 5:13:57 PM PST by meatloaf (Support House Bill 1380 to eliminate oil slavery.)
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