[Tolerance Sucks Rocks]

PING!

[U-238]

Most of these rules of measuring unemployment date back to the 1930s and the sample of unemployed workers they take is so small.
http://www.nationalaffairs.com/publications/detail/what-is-unemployment

[dragnet2]

My hunch is that number is close to accurate.

It’s difficult to know, as the labor reports vary widely and feels like listening to a Tokyo Rose broadcast.

[Doc91678]

Obama and the Democratic Party have been blowing smoke up our you know what. It's election time so of course employment according to the Dems is better. When in truth its just as bad or worse than the 30’s.
I see farmsand homes being foreclosed and people's families breaking down because they can't support them.
This has never been as bad as now and Obama and his biased media is hiding this from the public,

[Doc91678]

Obama and the Democratic Party have been blowing smoke up our you know what. It's election time so of course employment according to the Dems is better. When in truth its just as bad or worse than the 30’s.
I see farms-and homes being foreclosed and people's families breaking down because they can't support them.
This has never been as bad as now and Obama and his biased media is hiding this from the public,

[Doc91678]

Obama and the Democratic Party have been blowing smoke up our you know what. It's election time so of course employment according to the Dems is better. When in truth its just as bad or worse than the 30’s.
I see farms-and homes being foreclosed and people's families breaking down because they can't support them.
This has never been as bad as now and Obama and his biased media is hiding this from the public,

[Doc91678]

Obama and the Democratic Party have been blowing smoke up our you know what. It's election time so of course employment according to the Dems is better. When in truth its just as bad or worse than the 30’s.
I see farms-and homes being foreclosed and people's families breaking down because they can't support them.
This has never been as bad as now and Obama and his biased media is hiding this from the public,

[Uncle Slayton]

0bama blamed President Bush for an Unemployment rate of 6% back in 2008 and now 0bama has given us an Unemployment rare of 36%.

The 2012 Republican campaign needs to be built around the simple fact.

Bush 6% Unemployment.

0bama 36% Unemployment.

[marron]

people who have not made recent efforts to find work

Good article, but even he adopts the language of the fraudsters.

The statisticians have no way of knowing you aren't trying to find work, and they have no way of knowing you have "dropped out of the work force". All they know is your unemployment benefits ran out.

If you aren't receiving unemployment, you aren't counted. If you graduate from school, and can't find work, but you don't qualify for unemployment, you aren't counted. If you are off work and living off your savings, you aren't counted. If you're out of work but your folks or your brother in law is supporting you, you aren't counted. If you are out of work camped down by the river eating beans you picked up at the local food bank, you aren't counted.

Being out of work no longer qualifies you to be counted as "out of work". The qualifier is "out of work less than a year, receiving a state check".

So, yes. The government statistic is fraudulent, and has never been more fraudulent than it is now. The real number is probably in the thirties. Everyone in America knows someone out of work and most people are helping to support an out-of-work family member. Hardly a family in America is untouched.

[cpdiii]

What is the current percentage of working-age Americans, eligible to participate in the civilian labor force, but not currently working? Answer: 36.3 percent.

If the same methodology that says current unemployment is 8.5% was used during the great depression it would have shown very low levels of unemployment.

The methodology being used today simply covers up the fact that we are in a very very very severe recession that may end up being a depression.

[JDoutrider]

mark

[khelus]

The monthly unemployment statistics are based upon two separate sets of data.

The monthly employment rate is based upon a phone survey of ~60,000 families. It is not based upon whether one is receiving unemployment. OTH, the annual benchmark revision is based mainly upon the number of those receiving unemployment.

Among the main sources of hidden unemployment are:

• Those working part time but who need full time work. They are found in the U-6 rate
• Discouraged workers. A small number discouraged workers are included in U-6. A much larger number, the long term discouraged workers are moved out of the labor force.
• Seasonal adjustments
• The assumption that workers are still able to retire at the same age as in the past. In the annual adjustment released in February of this year, a large number of the population increase was assumed to be not in the labor forces because in the BLS's words:
  "This was because the population increase was primarily among persons 55 and older and, to a lesser degree, persons 16 to 24 years of age. Both these age groups have lower levels of labor force participation than the general population"
  
  The blue line in the following chart is a good approximation of unemployment rate, if you undo the 'modifications' since and including the major revisions in 1994:
  
  

[khelus]

For those who missed articles abour the ballyhooes +243,000 jobs created.

This number is from the payroll survey. Business reported in raw numbers -2,689,000 jobs.

Using BLS math,
-2,689,000 + Birth and Death Model adjustment + Seasonal Adjustment = +243,000.

[Yo-Yo]

So then look at U-6. It stands at about 15%.

[W. W. SMITH]

This is all part of the plan and the communist/socialist types have been working the plan for a long time. Communism can not be implemented unless the citizens are hurting bad, abject misery, therefore we must be impoverished, unemployed and with no way out.

Taxes on business and industry where implemented and then raised causing them to leave this nation with our wealth and jobs. Restrictions where placed on extracting our natural resources and more taxes where implemented and again raised. the result was spending our wealth buying oil and metals from others. This is leading us down the garden path to accepting their utopia.

When we quit taxing business and industry, the corporations will move back because “WE” are the most productive workers in the world. When we extract our own oil and metals, we retain our wealth instead of sending it overseas. When we do these things we will be on the road to recovery. When we do these things the communists/socialists will fight us tooth and nail and remember to them lie, cheat, steal and murder are OK as long as it furthers their agenda.

Now some feedback please, tell me I’m wrong

[TexasRepublic]

Statistics obscure the truth from us, but the unemployed themselves know who they are. The question is, how will they respond in November?

[Gene Eric]

The underfunding of SS scam needs to be factored into the unemployment score.