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To: lacrew
I didn't say the 25-mile claim were made by you. I wrote that it was written on this thread. Of course, you are more than welcome to point out where I accused you in particular of posting the claim. I would like to also point out that the chevyvolt.com link mentions that with a 240 volt station, charging time is 4 hours. Thus, we should be encouraged to point out all of the charging times instead of the highest.
25 posted on 02/21/2012 9:02:29 AM PST by Redalways
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To: Redalways

If you weren’t accusing me of making the 25 mile claim, then why did you deem it my responsibility to correct it? Why not address it with the poster who made the statement? If you mis-fired and blamed me for something I didn’t post, I deem it ok for you to admit it.

Yes, you are correct, with a 240V station, charging times are reduced to 4 hours (still not as good as the press release you regurgitated, which said as low as 3 hours, but good).

Lets look at the 240V station though, shall we:

It only costs $490.

Ooops...plus installation, around $1,475.

Total estimate $1,965.

But heck, the gubmint will usually pay for some of it.

But lets go back to my original post, in which you keyed off of the 10 hour claim (keeping in mind the 10 hr number comes directly from the Volt website). I will use all caps to change it, to meet your standards (while not changing the meaning at all):

The 10 hr charge [OR 4 HOUR IF YOU PONY UP $2 K) gets the Volt about as far as a gallon of gas.

How much coal is that?

By my calculation, 9.75 lb of coal.

A gallon of gas weighs around 7.1 lb.

Sounds green to me.


You see - it still takes the same amoutn of coal, no matter how fast the charger is. It wouldn’t matter if it charged in 5 minutes, the meaning of the statement is unchanged.

So what have we learned here?

1. You were victim to reading a 2009 GM press release...and actually believing it. I used GM’s current claims.

2. My original statement does not change in meaning, even if you go to the extreme measure of spending $2k on a charging station.

3. I started out posting in this thread, with the statement that we had to use ‘real numbers’ to discuss the Volt. Therefore, I have used ‘top end’ 40 mile range numbers, as well as ‘low end’ 12 kwh charging requirements....giving the Volt the benefit in any case of doubt....and it still pencils out to be a foolish concept.


29 posted on 02/21/2012 10:11:13 AM PST by lacrew (Mr. Soetoro, we regret to inform you that your race card is over the credit limit.)
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