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The concept that the government could or should only “allow” certain people to buy guns stands the very concept of American jurisprudence on its head. It presumes that the government knows all, controls all, and should be doing so. It is wrong and ineffective. It is the opposite of preventing criminals from possessing guns.

It is crazy to set up a huge expensive bureaucratic system, require everyone to jump though hoops and prove that they are *not* criminals in order to try, ineffectively, to prevent the few individuals who are not responsible, from having legal access to guns. This is a failed paradigm, and it should be abandoned. To accept the idea that the all gun sales should be monitored by the government, and only allowed to those it deems satisfactory is fundamentally wrong.

The entire idea of the enterprise has always been the death of a thousand cuts, where the restrictions on who can buy, and where, and how and what are continually increased until the number of gun owners is reduced to political insignificance.

1 posted on 02/20/2012 5:07:41 AM PST by marktwain
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$65 per gun? That’s revenue raising not licensing.


2 posted on 02/20/2012 5:14:57 AM PST by glorgau
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Some one who says he is your freind then stabs you in the back are the worse enemies to have.
3 posted on 02/20/2012 5:19:47 AM PST by riverrunner
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"My son was shot and killed in 1997 and ... I don't want bad guys to have guns, it's simple," Jenkins said. Jenkins said he considers Mayor Rahm Emanuel's recent proposal to license every gun in Illinois a sensible move in the right direction.

See, and Jenkins doesn't even feel like that's enough. It's only a move, in the right direction.

The end game is a total ban on bad guys having any guns at all.

And EVERYONE is a bad guy, to Jenkins.

4 posted on 02/20/2012 5:20:14 AM PST by Lazamataz (If you only think about a diet, only your brain loses weight.)
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It too bad the rural parts of Illinois can’t form their own state.


5 posted on 02/20/2012 5:27:50 AM PST by dog breath
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It too bad the rural parts of Illinois can’t form their own state.


6 posted on 02/20/2012 5:27:52 AM PST by dog breath
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"I think every responsible gun owner should care about how firearms are used and perceived in our society," he said.

Typical demonRAT, using words with no meaning.

What the hell does a "perception of a gun" mean?

I care about how my guns are used and so I've taught my children and grand children how to handle and safely use them.

I've never taught them how to "perceive" a gun.

7 posted on 02/20/2012 5:39:01 AM PST by USS Alaska (Nuke the terrorists savages.)
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If you don’t want bad guys to have guns, what is it about licensing that you expect to resolve that?


8 posted on 02/20/2012 5:42:50 AM PST by G Larry (We are NOT obliged to carry the snake in our pocket and then dismiss the bites as natural behavior.)
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The way I see it, registration doesn’t necessarily lead to confiscation, but it is a necessary precursor.

And it’s not about what a registry is intended to be used for, because once it exists, it exists, for whatever use the powers that be feel it proper to use it for.

People keep talking about Hitler and gun control. Truth is, Hitler didn’t pass many gun control laws. They were put into place by the well-intentioned politicians of the Weimar Republic. And I’m sure that they had no idea that ten years later there’d be someone like Hitler in power.

So before I’m willing to discuss the merits of registration (or the lack thereof), I need to be convinced, beyond any doubt, that there will never be, an elected politician, appointed bureaucrat, or other government official, in a position of power or authority, who would be willing or able to abuse the registry to limit the ability of ordinary citizens to obtain firearms.

I’m not sure how you could convince me that we’d never, ever, see an anti-gun politician elected to any position of power. It’d take more than a Constitutional amendment, because Constitutional guarantees are empty promises, absent a citizenry dedicated to preserving them. But convince me you’d need to, to get me to accept the imposition of a gun registry.


9 posted on 02/20/2012 5:44:21 AM PST by jdege
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Bill Jenkins isn't your classic gun control lobbyist. In fact, he isn't even a lobbyist or a formal activist.

An outright lie right off the bat.

National Gun Victims Action Council - Board of Directors - Bill Jenkins

And if you think these guys are about victims check out their objectives:

Gun Violence and NGAC's Economic Strategy to Change It

Seems their main "strategy" is to badmouth the NRA including this gem:

Whenever you hear ANYTHING about guns that seems appealing, reasonable or factual KNOW IT IS PROBABLY NOT TRUE.

11 posted on 02/20/2012 6:04:27 AM PST by facedown (Armed in the Heartland)
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This refutes every anti-gun opinion on registration:

Death of a Long-Gun Registry

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2848884/posts


13 posted on 02/20/2012 8:59:32 AM PST by RicocheT (Eat the rich only if you're certain it's your last meal)
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When I first saw the link, I thought it said nitwittimes... seems I was not too far off after reading this!


14 posted on 02/20/2012 10:04:20 AM PST by always paddle your own canoe (Love many, trust few)
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