[Oatka]

So, you've brought your W2 to tithing settlement? In December?

Straw Man argument. "Personal observation" as in seeing a widow get help from the Church, who now controls almost every waking minute of her life with "callings" for one damn thing after another. Same with the others - the Church doesn't seem to want them to have any free time at all. Then there is a guy who had to take out a $35,000 second mortgage to fund his kids going on overseas missions.

There are some good family values they have but still too much of a cult that milks their believers dry in money and time under the guise of a "calling".

[T. P. Pole]

Not a straw man argument. You specifically said "I live right smack in the middle of 'em and every word, from PERSONAL OBSERVATION, is spot on." That appears to be a claim that "every word" in the statement made in that post was accurate. And I challenged you on that by asking if you had personal observation on one of the specific claims. That is not straw man.

[AnTiw1]

just a few blogs and articles where members mention financial documentation requested/required by bishops to assure full tithing compliance for a temple recommend

including that of an institute director whose employment w the church required a tr and bishop demanded w2s...director resigned in protest

all verified antimormon lying hater bigots etc...only time for a few links gotta go to work nite all ~A.~

http://exmormon.org/phorum/read.php?2,57205,57228,quote=1

http://www.exmormon.org/whylft149.htm

http://forum.newordermormon.org/viewtopic.php?p=106130&sid=f5ee68cebafef9fa78aef0267f6eEbcc

http://exmormon.org/phorum/read.php?2,237031,256090

http://exmormon.org/phorum/read.php?2,248837