Posted on 02/18/2012 5:00:14 AM PST by reaganaut1
LORAIN, Ohio It used to be called illegitimacy. Now it is the new normal. After steadily rising for five decades, the share of children born to unmarried women has crossed a threshold: more than half of births to American women under 30 occur outside marriage.
Once largely limited to poor women and minorities, motherhood without marriage has settled deeply into middle America. The fastest growth in the last two decades has occurred among white women in their 20s who have some college education but no four-year degree, according to Child Trends, a Washington research group that analyzed government data.
Among mothers of all ages, a majority 59 percent in 2009 are married when they have children. But the surge of births outside marriage among younger women nearly two-thirds of children in the United States are born to mothers under 30 is both a symbol of the transforming family and a hint of coming generational change.
One group still largely resists the trend: college graduates, who overwhelmingly marry before having children. That is turning family structure into a new class divide, with the economic and social rewards of marriage increasingly reserved for people with the most education.
Marriage has become a luxury good, said Frank Furstenberg, a sociologist at the University of Pennsylvania.
The shift is affecting childrens lives. Researchers have consistently found that children born outside marriage face elevated risks of falling into poverty, failing in school or suffering emotional and behavioral problems.
(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...
Well.. we can easily see society doesn't have an interest in morality standards....our society is about how to handle 'the results' of immorality apart from moral standards , other than what each determines his own "truth" of what morality they adhere to. Basically becoming their own God. Our culture is one of standerless standards on the masses...and they lick it up like water from a stream.
Yes indeed..and worse against the most innocent among us. It's really worse than the heathen who sacrified their children to their false Gods...at least those children were allowed to be born....in our nation abortionists invade the safety chamber God provides for a child and cuts them to sreads or rips their wee bodies apart thru suction.
I saw a video of an abortion being done.. very hard to watch.. but the Dr. had become a Christian and had filmed this prior, he used these films to show how the baby reacts once the womb is invaded in order to disprove those who say the baby isn;t affected.......It was both alarming and stunning as the baby pushed itself against the back of the womb to avoid the probe which had invaded it's safety chamber. I will never forget that and have used this in speaking with woman about abortion.
Back in the 50's one of my friends had an abortion, forced to by her parents as the father was 1/2 black. She was a loosy goosy to begin with, horrid parents and child abuse against her and her younger sister...with beatings where the mother would hold the girls and the dad would beat them with a strap, spent time locked in the basement etc. etc. etc...its amazing those 2 survived at all...
What is also horrid for the men is that some of the women are married and the father has no say. He just has to live with the fact that his wife killed his baby....I don’t see how those marriages survive...that has to be horrid for the fathers...
Discouraging abortion is just half of it.
The other half of it is encouraging marriage and the conception, birth and raising of children within that strong marriage.
It is the standard societal motif; so you not subscribe to it?
Usually when people say that the father needs to be responsible, they mean that the father should fork over more cash while the mother gets to actually parent.
All your points are valid. Poor girls...
This world will never be perfect, but with a cultural standard that makes people ashamed of sex outside of marriage, illegitimate children will be rare, as they used to be. WIth adoptions made easier, good homes can be found for newborns, which makes it easier for everyone - including and most especially the babies.
You aren’t reading what other people say. BOTH father AND mother need to be responsible for any children they pop out. Is that clear yet?
And the cultural standard of whoredom is very recent. And no, I do not “subscribe” to it. Do you?
was in reference to:
Usually when people say that the father needs to be responsible, they mean that the father should fork over more cash while the mother gets to actually parent.
The wording undoubtedly makes clear that I don't subscribe to it.
The question was whether you do or not.
both of my sisters kids are adopted...if abortion would have been legal, they might not be here....that would be a shame....I keep in touch via email with her daughter, my niece all the time and love them both.
Regarding:
Usually when people say that the father needs to be responsible, they mean that the father should fork over more cash while the mother gets to actually parent.
I already said that BOTH parents - mother AND father - should be equally responsible IN EVERY WAY for any offspring they pop out. Can I be any clearer? In every single way. And since there is almost always acrimony about how to practically apply this, then people should think twice about messing around with people they aren't married to, and should marry with lifelong commitment. Of course, sometimes a spouse turns out to be a psychopath, but most divorces don't need to happen.
Feminism is at the root of many divorces, directly or indirectly.
“where really does the majority stand?”
As the “dependent class” grows, we can only hope that they resent being fed the scraps from the Dems’ table, and have enough pride to believe we can get out of this. Ten years ago Obama wouldn’t have stood a chance; realistically he shouldn’t today, but I hope enough people see him as exacerbating the problem rather than possibly having any solution.
He isn’t very credible about solutions at this point.
That's the myth that keeps the whole family-destroying machine going.
You presume that most men don't want parenthood and you are wrong.
I was shocked at the large number of young marriages among military personnel until I realized that the military does exactly that... providing a decent income and housing for a young man and young woman who want to get married shortly after high school.
The military is far from a panacea but it does provide something in this area that very few civilian jobs can provide which do not require many years of post-high-school training or college.
The military also has to deal with the problems caused by lots of young marriages, including a high divorce rate. There are reasons why marriage has been postponed in modern America and while many of them are bad, not all of them are.
The young people need support and education about what makes a strong relationship, starting (I think this is not too early) at puberty. Some communities offer "relationship and communication" classes for high school students. Going to cotillion and learning basic social graces is another part of it, and some places make sure 10- and 12-year-olds are getting instruction in this. Again, this is not too early to learn. I'm describing a past the vestiges of which still exist here and there.
The military might provide some of the elements but it is also an existence which demands constant moving around in many cases, which would make living in a community aware of the challenges facing a young couple a little more daunting.
Sorry for missing or passing over your response, but in review i would say that that finding out the percentage of abortions per per live births is what you are looking for, yet the more recent comparison i could only find is from 2004/05 data. Note that according to AGI (Alan Guttmacher Institute, a former Planned Parenthood research arm), which is considered more accurate, Wash. DC ranked #1 in % of abortions in 2004 and 05, and according to the latest Census tabulation it is in #1 of homosexual households.
Below is the best table i could find, which is from http://www.johnstonsarchive.net/policy/abortion/statesabrate.html. I highlighted the rank columns and placed highest states names and numbers in bold. It could be interesting to compare this with my table of other correlations.
Percent of known pregnancies ending in reported abortions by state with state rank
state |
abortions by residents, in/out of state |
abortions occurring in state |
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AGI data, 1985 |
AGI data, 2004 |
CDC data, 2004 |
latest official data |
AGI data, 2005 |
latest official data |
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abortion % |
rank |
abortion % |
rank |
abortion % |
rank |
abortion % |
year |
rank |
abortion % |
rank |
abortion % |
year |
rank |
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Alabama |
25.0 |
26 |
15.9 |
36 |
14.0 |
28 |
13.1 |
2009 |
33 |
15.8 |
34 |
14.8 |
2009 |
27 |
Alaska |
23.1 |
29 |
17.5 |
28 |
16.3 |
22 |
14.3 |
2009 |
28 |
15.8 |
35 |
14.6 |
2009 |
28 |
Arizona |
27.7 |
16 |
16.3 |
32 |
9.6 |
40 |
9.8 |
2009 |
42 |
16.9 |
30 |
10.0 |
2009 |
40 |
Arkansas |
16.7 |
44 |
11.9 |
44 |
11.1 |
38 |
9.1 |
2009 |
45 |
10.8 |
43 |
10.3 |
2009 |
39 |
California |
40.4 |
3 |
27.6 |
7 |
33.5 |
1983 |
1 |
27.5 |
9 |
9.6* |
2007 |
41* |
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Colorado |
29.5 |
14 |
17.3 |
29 |
13.6 |
30 |
13.6 |
2006 |
31 |
19.0 |
24 |
13.5 |
2006 |
32 |
Connecticut |
38.5 |
5 |
28.7 |
6 |
25.6 |
2 |
25.6 |
2006 |
4 |
28.8 |
8 |
25.2 |
2006 |
5 |
Delaware |
26.2 |
24 |
25.3 |
11 |
23.6 |
3 |
23.1 |
2007 |
7 |
30.8 |
5 |
29.6 |
2007 |
2 |
District of Columbia |
37.5 |
7 |
42.8 |
1 |
20.1 |
11 |
20.1 |
2006 |
12 |
49.9 |
1 |
24.0 |
2006 |
6 |
Florida |
30.2 |
13 |
29.1 |
5 |
29.4 |
2003 |
3 |
29.0 |
7 |
27.1 |
2009 |
4 |
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Georgia |
27.5 |
19 |
19.0 |
22 |
15.7 |
23 |
16.6 |
2007 |
21 |
19.1 |
23 |
17.1 |
2006 |
19 |
Hawaii |
37.7 |
6 |
22.1 |
15 |
17.3 |
17 |
14.3 |
2008 |
29 |
23.0 |
13 |
14.4 |
2008 |
30 |
Idaho |
14.9 |
46 |
10.6 |
47 |
7.5 |
43 |
5.4 |
2008 |
49 |
7.3 |
46 |
5.5 |
2008 |
49 |
Illinois |
27.5 |
18 |
21.8 |
16 |
18.6 |
13 |
19.4 |
2009 |
14 |
22.2 |
16 |
21.2 |
2009 |
9 |
Indiana |
20.6 |
32 |
13.0 |
42 |
11.4 |
37 |
10.4 |
2007 |
40 |
11.3 |
41 |
10.8 |
2007 |
36 |
Iowa |
20.5 |
35 |
13.6 |
39 |
12.8 |
33 |
12.1 |
2008 |
35 |
14.0 |
37 |
13.9 |
2008 |
31 |
Kansas |
15.6 |
45 |
13.2 |
41 |
12.6 |
34 |
10.3 |
2009 |
41 |
21.4 |
18 |
18.5 |
2009 |
17 |
Kentucky |
14.4 |
48 |
10.0 |
49 |
9.6 |
2003 |
43 |
6.4 |
50 |
6.3 |
2006 |
48 |
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Louisiana |
19.0 |
41 |
14.3 |
37 |
17.6 |
1983 |
16 |
15.8 |
36 |
9.6 |
2008 |
42 |
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Maine |
24.3 |
27 |
17.9 |
27 |
15.6 |
24 |
15.6 |
2006 |
26 |
16.4 |
31 |
15.9 |
2006 |
25 |
Maryland |
38.7 |
4 |
32.8 |
4 |
11.6 |
36 |
11.6 |
2006 |
36 |
33.4 |
4 |
11.0 |
2006 |
35 |
Massachusetts |
33.7 |
9 |
25.5 |
10 |
23.5 |
5 |
23.5 |
2006 |
6 |
26.2 |
11 |
23.8 |
2006 |
7 |
Michigan |
32.1 |
10 |
24.8 |
12 |
16.6 |
20 |
15.7 |
2009 |
25 |
24.1 |
12 |
16.0 |
2009 |
24 |
Minnesota |
19.5 |
39 |
16.1 |
33 |
15.5 |
25 |
13.9 |
2009 |
30 |
16.4 |
32 |
15.0 |
2009 |
26 |
Mississippi |
14.8 |
47 |
16.0 |
35 |
12.9 |
32 |
5.2 |
2009 |
50 |
6.8 |
47 |
5.3 |
2009 |
50 |
Missouri |
22.0 |
31 |
16.5 |
31 |
15.2 |
26 |
12.4 |
2008 |
34 |
9.7 |
45 |
8.4 |
2008 |
45 |
Montana |
19.5 |
38 |
16.1 |
34 |
13.6 |
29 |
13.2 |
2008 |
32 |
16.0 |
33 |
14.5 |
2008 |
29 |
Nebraska |
18.4 |
42 |
11.4 |
46 |
8.9 |
42 |
7.8 |
2009 |
46 |
11.0 |
42 |
8.6 |
2009 |
44 |
Nevada |
37.2 |
8 |
26.5 |
9 |
21.0 |
8 |
21.0 |
2006 |
9 |
27.3 |
10 |
22.2 |
2006 |
8 |
New Hampshire |
27.5 |
17 |
18.9 |
23 |
17.5 |
1987 |
17 |
18.0 |
27 |
12.6 |
1997 |
34 |
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New Jersey |
42.3 |
2 |
33.5 |
3 |
21.6 |
7 |
21.6 |
2006 |
8 |
35.0 |
3 |
18.8 |
2007 |
15 |
New Mexico |
19.9 |
36 |
19.1 |
21 |
17.6 |
16 |
15.8 |
2007 |
23 |
17.8 |
28 |
16.9 |
2006 |
21 |
New York |
42.6 |
1 |
38.6 |
2 |
32.8 |
1 |
31.7 |
2008 |
2 |
38.8 |
2 |
32.7 |
2008 |
1 |
North Carolina |
27.4 |
20 |
20.9 |
20 |
18.8 |
12 |
17.0 |
2009 |
18 |
21.9 |
17 |
19.4 |
2009 |
13 |
North Dakota |
11.2 |
50 |
10.3 |
48 |
9.3 |
41 |
9.3 |
2008 |
44 |
12.8 |
38 |
13.4 |
2008 |
33 |
Ohio |
25.7 |
25 |
18.3 |
25 |
17.3 |
18 |
15.7 |
2009 |
24 |
19.2 |
22 |
16.5 |
2009 |
23 |
Oklahoma |
20.5 |
34 |
12.5 |
43 |
11.9 |
35 |
10.6 |
2008 |
38 |
11.8 |
40 |
10.6 |
2008 |
38 |
Oregon |
26.3 |
22 |
21.1 |
19 |
17.8 |
15 |
16.8 |
2009 |
20 |
22.4 |
15 |
18.7 |
2009 |
16 |
Pennsylvania |
26.8 |
21 |
21.2 |
18 |
20.5 |
10 |
20.0 |
2008 |
13 |
19.6 |
21 |
20.7 |
2008 |
10 |
Rhode Island |
31.3 |
11 |
27.3 |
8 |
23.5 |
4 |
23.5 |
2006 |
5 |
29.8 |
6 |
28.1 |
2006 |
3 |
South Carolina |
20.5 |
33 |
18.5 |
24 |
16.9 |
19 |
17.0 |
2007 |
19 |
17.1 |
29 |
17.0 |
2007 |
20 |
South Dakota |
11.7 |
49 |
8.0 |
50 |
6.8 |
44 |
5.5 |
2008 |
48 |
6.6 |
48 |
6.6 |
2008 |
47 |
Tennessee |
22.2 |
30 |
16.7 |
30 |
15.0 |
27 |
14.7 |
2008 |
27 |
18.2 |
25 |
17.5 |
2006 |
18 |
Texas |
23.5 |
28 |
18.2 |
26 |
16.6 |
21 |
16.3 |
2008 |
22 |
18.2 |
26 |
16.8 |
2008 |
22 |
Utah |
10.4 |
51 |
6.6 |
51 |
6.3 |
45 |
5.9 |
2008 |
47 |
6.6 |
49 |
6.6 |
2008 |
46 |
Vermont |
26.2 |
23 |
21.3 |
17 |
18.5 |
14 |
18.0 |
2008 |
15 |
20.5 |
19 |
19.2 |
2008 |
14 |
Virginia |
31.1 |
12 |
22.5 |
14 |
20.9 |
9 |
20.4 |
2008 |
10 |
20.2 |
20 |
20.2 |
2006 |
11 |
Washington |
28.5 |
15 |
23.1 |
13 |
22.2 |
6 |
20.2 |
2009 |
11 |
22.6 |
14 |
20.2 |
2009 |
12 |
West Virginia |
16.9 |
43 |
11.7 |
45 |
10.6 |
39 |
10.6 |
2006 |
37 |
10.3 |
44 |
8.9 |
2006 |
43 |
Wisconsin |
19.5 |
37 |
13.6 |
40 |
13.0 |
31 |
10.4 |
2009 |
39 |
12.2 |
39 |
10.7 |
2009 |
37 |
Wyoming |
19.0 |
40 |
14.0 |
38 |
3.5 |
46 |
3.5 |
2006 |
51 |
1.0 |
51 |
0.1 |
2006 |
51 |
* California data is significantly underreported.
Note that as in things like the morality rate for homosexuals, recent precise data is hard to get to from the government. The Guardian.co.uk also provides a table of the abortion ratio per number but not the %, prefacing it by saying,
So, what are the numbers? Despite - or maybe because of - the political importance of the debate, they're not clear. Compiled by the US Centers for Disease Control they only go up to 2005, and there is some doubt over whether later ones will be published. The report itself only has the tables images, ie, they can't be copied unless you type them out.
Well, that is what we have done, just with a couple of tables - total figures and a breakdown by state. There are some omissions. California, the most populous state in the union, does not compile (or release) abortion figures. But this is what there is. Let us know what you can do with it. http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/datablog/2009/nov/30/abortion-us-states-obama-healthcare-data/print
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abortion_in_the_United_States#Reasons_for_abortions provides thee results:
A 2004 study by the Guttmacher Institute reported that women listed the following amongst their reasons for choosing to have an abortion: [43]
74% Having a baby would dramatically change my life
73% Cant afford a baby now
48% Dont want to be a single mother or having relationship problems
38% Have completed my childbearing
32% Not ready for a(nother) child
25% Dont want people to know I had sex or got pregnant
22% Dont feel mature enough to raise a(nother) child
14% Husband or partner wants me to have an abortion
13% Possible problems affecting the health of the fetus
12% Concerns about my health
6% Parents want me to have an abortion
1% Was a victim of rape
less than 0.5% Became pregnant as a result of incest
Appendix Table 1a. Percent of All Households Same-sex Couple Households, by State: |
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Area |
Census 2000 |
2010 Census |
Estimate |
Std. Err. |
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United States |
0.563 |
0.773 |
0.518 |
0.006 |
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Alabama |
0.467 |
0.598 |
0.300 |
0.039 |
45 |
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Alaska |
0.532 |
0.717 |
0.295 |
0.086 |
46 |
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Arizona |
0.649 |
0.880 |
0.649 |
0.053 |
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Arkansas |
0.424 |
0.611 |
0.360 |
0.050 |
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California |
0.801 |
0.998 |
0.726 |
0.022 |
6 |
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Colorado |
0.606 |
0.817 |
0.618 |
0.053 |
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Connecticut |
0.567 |
0.784 |
0.672 |
0.067 |
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Delaware |
0.625 |
0.979 |
0.565 |
0.095 |
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District of Columbia |
1.481 |
1.929 |
1.172 |
0.148 |
1 |
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Florida |
0.648 |
0.884 |
0.576 |
0.029 |
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Georgia |
0.642 |
0.832 |
0.456 |
0.036 |
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Hawaii |
0.592 |
0.933 |
0.779 |
0.100 |
4 |
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Idaho |
0.399 |
0.560 |
0.315 |
0.067 |
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Illinois |
0.498 |
0.671 |
0.414 |
0.028 |
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Indiana |
0.437 |
0.657 |
0.402 |
0.038 |
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Iowa |
0.322 |
0.535 |
0.372 |
0.048 |
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Kansas |
0.383 |
0.555 |
0.330 |
0.050 |
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Kentucky |
0.447 |
0.673 |
0.405 |
0.041 |
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Louisiana |
0.532 |
0.703 |
0.318 |
0.039 |
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Maine |
0.655 |
0.970 |
0.774 |
0.109 |
5 |
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Maryland |
0.568 |
0.788 |
0.485 |
0.048 |
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Mass |
0.700 |
1.023 |
0.829 |
0.059 |
3 |
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Michigan |
0.406 |
0.562 |
0.389 |
0.028 |
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Minnesota |
0.483 |
0.657 |
0.602 |
0.040 |
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Mississippi |
0.456 |
0.563 |
0.258 |
0.048 |
48 |
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Missouri |
0.430 |
0.642 |
0.425 |
0.037 |
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Montana |
0.340 |
0.560 |
0.401 |
0.100 |
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Nebraska |
0.350 |
0.520 |
0.394 |
0.059 |
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Nevada |
0.662 |
0.926 |
0.551 |
0.072 |
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New Hampshire |
0.570 |
0.893 |
0.553 |
0.096 |
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New Jersey |
0.542 |
0.750 |
0.494 |
0.044 |
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New Mexico |
0.663 |
0.984 |
0.701 |
0.094 |
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New York |
0.659 |
0.892 |
0.636 |
0.028 |
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North Carolina |
0.517 |
0.728 |
0.474 |
0.033 |
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North Dakota |
0.273 |
0.396 |
0.292 |
0.074 |
47 |
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Ohio |
0.426 |
0.621 |
0.402 |
0.025 |
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Oklahoma |
0.429 |
0.671 |
0.443 |
0.047 |
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Oregon |
0.670 |
0.986 |
0.695 |
0.070 |
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Pennsylvania |
0.443 |
0.670 |
0.438 |
0.028 |
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Rhode Island |
0.605 |
0.886 |
0.885 |
0.155 |
2 |
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South Carolina |
0.496 |
0.640 |
0.318 |
0.041 |
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South Dakota |
0.285 |
0.431 |
0.181 |
0.063 |
49 |
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Tennessee |
0.456 |
0.655 |
0.400 |
0.040 |
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Texas |
0.580 |
0.756 |
0.493 |
0.024 |
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Utah |
0.481 |
0.662 |
0.447 |
0.055 |
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Vermont |
0.803 |
1.091 |
0.697 |
0.109 |
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Virginia |
0.511 |
0.672 |
0.443 |
0.039 |
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Washington |
0.700 |
0.927 |
0.632 |
0.048 |
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West Virginia |
0.396 |
0.686 |
0.311 |
0.054 |
44 |
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Wisconsin |
0.395 |
0.598 |
0.414 |
0.030 |
|
|
Wyoming |
0.417 |
0.506 |
0.175 |
0.069 |
50 |
|
Source: Census 2000 and 2010 Summary File 1 and 2010 American Community Survey.
Not sure what this means.
I think the most meaningful measure here is out-of-wedlock PREGNANCIES. That would include births and abortions.
It was bad that it must have broke the server!
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