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To: CharlesWayneCT
No. You took my reply to the opposite extreme, which I pretty much figured you would. What I am saying, there are lots of problems with children, whose parents can't be trusted to do the right thing, or to actually do harm.

Actually, what I ACCURATELY said was:"I just feel the republican party has no understanding or awareness of some of the deep problems in this country, outside their base..."

When you walk into those neighborhoods, you don't see storefronts sponsored by republicans helping, or republican activists addressing problems, interacting and educating the next generation, or trying to lift them up. All you see is dem this and dem that - dem program - dem handout...

Without helping or engaging, most republicans recite their mantra, govt is bad, bad, bad... and walk off... I am not talking about the govt - I never mentioned the govt except in terms of Newt's solutions. I am talking about republicans addressing and attracting, and offering solutions - and competing with the dems - to help those people in harm's way... they don't.

And the way you took my response is proof positive... if you want to remove the slavish immoral safety net, how's about a solution first? Because whether you want to understand, accept or realize it - lots of people in this world - need help to plant their flag on a new level of generational success and living.

68 posted on 02/17/2012 12:03:06 AM PST by true believer forever (Save the Irish Setters - Vote Newt!)
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To: true believer forever

Isn’t that the problem? I tried to express that in my post, it is what made it hard to write — of course there are problems, and there are people who need help, but can’t we address that without government?

Well, you can’t, if you want to guarantee they all get helped. (Government can’t do that either, but the presupposition is that if government has a program, everybody who needs it is miraculously helped).

Churches provide much of the foundation for help in this country, or did before government. But there were also secular charities, because society saw the need. But then society, which controls the government, decided that it was easier to use their government for this than to maintain separate charities. Also, government could compel charity out of everybody (taxes).

If I thought Gingrich was proposing a non-government solution simply as a way to explain how he could get government out of it, I wouldn’t mind, but I don’t think that is what he is saying.


86 posted on 02/17/2012 2:09:31 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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