[slowhandluke]

And yet, vaccines aren't perfect, nor are the factory processes used to create vaccines perfect, or we would not need the VAERS report.

I did not argue that vaccines do provide protection from vaccines, though it isn't a perfect protection.

What I did say was that vaccination carries some risk, which you want to ignore. Science doesn't ignore the risks, it's politicians and marketers who hide the risk and only talk about the benefits.

[RFEngineer]

“What I did say was that vaccination carries some risk, which you want to ignore”

No, I did not ignore it. What you want to ignore is there is no way to separate vaccination risk from non-vaccination risk. The non-vaccine folks somehow justify their actions which create a greater risk for them and their kids - and create a societal risk for other who either do not or cannot get vaccinated.

But they have the right to take the risk - but let’s not pretend they aren’t taking a risk above the risk of the proven complications from a vaccine.