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To: Brookhaven
That would be an interesting trial, because the evidence that saturated fat and cholesterol contribute to heart disease has been falling apart for decades. At the moment it's more of an old wive's tale than scientific fact.

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Do you seriously believe a diet high in both those items does not lead to heart disease?

You need to visit a good non biased nutrition site. One that is not pushing a fad diet.

41 posted on 02/15/2012 12:24:09 PM PST by trailhkr1
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To: trailhkr1
I have been going to a non-biased site: pubmed (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/) where you can read the actual studies.

If you take the time to read the actual studies, you'll see that the focus shifted away from saturated fat to cholesterol decades ago. Now the focus has shifted to coronary inflammation, pattern-B LDL, and lp(a).

The original hypothesis form the 1950's that saturated fat was never proven, but the scientific community ran with it because the were confident it eventually would be proven true (it takes decades to run these studies). It never was proven true.

The same was true for cholesterol, because cholesterol can't be lowered strictly by diet (you liver makes 85% of your cholesterol normally, and has more than enough capacity to make 100% if you stop eating cholesterol entirely), so nobody has ever been able to run an actual study--without drugs--that shows lowering cholesterol reduced heart disease.

If you're still confident that cholesterol is behind heart disease, explain the results from this UCLA study:

http://www.ahjonline.com/article/S0002-8703(08)00717-5/fulltext

They looked at cholesterol levels of heart attack patients admitted to the hospital after a heart attack (the got hold of the data for 59% of all heart attack victims in the USA for a multi-year period). What did they find? The people with low cholesterol had 75% of the heart attacks--75%.

And, what percentage of heart attack victims had high cholesteral (both high HDL & high LDL)? 0.7%. That's less than 1%; that's only 7 out of 1,000; that's darn near zero.

The people that have high cholesterol are not the ones having the heart attacks. That's clear from this UCLA study.

46 posted on 02/15/2012 12:52:41 PM PST by Brookhaven (Mitt Romney has been consistent since he changed his mind.)
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