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To: fishtank

“The lds-org does NOT believe that mankind is a fallen, sinful creature.”

not from mormons i’ve spoken to. they believe that mankind was in a fallen state from which it was redeemed by the Saviour’s atonement.


43 posted on 02/15/2012 9:37:19 AM PST by IWONDR
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To: IWONDR; Colofornian; greyfoxx39

The lds-org does NOT believe that humans are sinful at birth and are fallen.

But, there is plenty of doublespeak here, if you can stand it:

From:

http://lds.about.com/od/basicsgospelprinciples/a/original_sin.htm

President Joseph Fielding Smith, tenth president of the Church, said:

“I never speak of the part Eve took in this fall as a sin, nor do I accuse Adam of a sin.... This was a transgression of the law, but not a sin... for it was something that Adam and Eve had to do!”

Doctrines of Salvation, comp. Bruce R. McConkie, 3 vols., Salt Lake City: Bookcraft, 1954–56, 1:114–15. As quoted in: “’The Great Plan of Happiness’,” by Elder Dallin H. Oaks, Ensign, Nov 1993, 72.

And from the same website: “This means that we, Mormons, do not believe in original sin and that babies do not need to be baptized, but are alive in Christ.”


48 posted on 02/15/2012 10:01:56 AM PST by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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