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To: Ragnar54
Gadz! That cold snap brings back memories of the winter of '85 in Germany. I was stationed near Grafenwohr, and we were informed that the Siberian Express was coming through. Well, our Commander decided that it was a great opportunity for his troops to get some Arctic training, and sent us to the local training area. We sat out there for a week, freezing in those iceboxes we called "armored vehicles". One by one, the vehicle heaters gave up the ghost. When the mermited food arrived, it was frozen, even the coffee. By the end of the week, we had 1 vehicle that was still operational and we were all packed in the thing, trying to stay warm. Even then, you got so cold that your bones hurt.

Oh yeah, the commander never left the post. He stayed in his comfy digs until it was all over.

42 posted on 02/15/2012 1:05:31 AM PST by Sarajevo (Any connection between your reality and mine is purely coincidental)
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To: Sarajevo

When my MLRS unit did the wintertime Graf we had GP tents and Yukon stoves. Our tents had liners and we mixed the Yukon fuel 50-50 mogas-JP8. We didn’t get extreme temperatures but with the Yukon glowing it was down right toasty in the tent. I always tried to have hot cocoa and coffee on the Yukon for my soldiers.

We were lucky that our command was in the field with us and our equipment had many hydraulic seals which wouldn’t do well in low temps. If the equipment was run below 20 degrees the vehicle would deadline post haste. Rather than freeze our backsides off in broken equipment we’d drink hot cocoa and coffee in our tents and wait for it to warm up.

Just sayin....


45 posted on 02/15/2012 1:52:02 AM PST by Justa
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To: Sarajevo

I was PDA at Graf (FMTD) from 83-86.


53 posted on 02/15/2012 5:24:25 AM PST by patton ("Je pense donc je suis," - My Horse.)
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To: Sarajevo

When I was there in ‘69 it was not an unusual winter.

Still, our tracks (M113 with Chrysler gasoline engine)
would not start reliably in the morning. Only by spraying ether into the air cleaner intake could we get them to
start.

We would have had to leave em in the motorpool if the Russians came.


58 posted on 02/15/2012 7:39:36 AM PST by RitchieAprile
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To: Sarajevo
Memories of Germany...lol!

I'll never forget Feb '78 at Todendorf, a German anti-aircraft range on the Baltic. IIRC, it was about 20 degrees, with 30 MPH winds coming off the sea. Hated every minute of it.

The Army made up for it, though. I spent the summer of '79 as the XO of the Admin/Log group. We were the only Americans for 200 miles. There was a tourist town nearby, named Lutjenburg. I developed a friendship with the owner of the Hotel Ostseeblick, helping him close down the bar most days at 4 AM.

He liked the way I would loosely translate American colloquialisms into German. My nickname for him was damentotschlager..."Lady Killer".

I made so many friends that summer, I spent long weekends up there, even though it was 400 miles from where I lived. With the autobahn, it was only a 5 hour drive.

61 posted on 02/15/2012 7:52:26 AM PST by Night Hides Not (My dream ticket for 2012 is John Galt & Dagny Taggart!)
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