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To: TexasFreeper2009

I can’t believe conservatives actually believe Santorum has any chance against Obama. What a discouraging primary.


46 posted on 02/14/2012 12:47:30 PM PST by Hattie
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To: Hattie

My primary focus at this point is defeating Romney for the nomination. It’s payback time.


48 posted on 02/14/2012 12:54:38 PM PST by TexasFreeper2009 (Go Newt!)
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To: Hattie

I can’t believe people are stupid enough to not understand how President of the United States in elected. So let’s do a quick review, shall we?

First, please tell me which state Rick Santorum would lose that John McCain carried, that due to Obama’s “superiority” as an incumbent (which you must believe exists) will allow Obama to flip a red state. Which one, come on tell me, which red state McCain won flips to Obama? Come on now, inquring minds want to know. And don’t just give me a state name, give me the demographics of that state and the county breakdowns as well.

Can’t find one? Didn’t think so. Now tell me why Santorum wouldn’t improve on McCain’s numbers by the 17,000 votes in NC or 30,000 votes he lost in IN? If you go county-by-county (which I’m sure you already did since you’ve brilliantly concluded Santorum has no chance), I want you to explain why you think Santorum at a minimum can’t increase the percentages on McCain in the areas that were far under Bush in 2004, that is the conservative areas where people stayed home or didnt vote?

We can do this for VA and FL too. McCain ran week in SW VA and other cosnervative strongholds including liberal Northern VA, yet we know conservatives DO exist in VA from what transpired there in 2010, and the fact that George Allen is on the ballot for Senate there in 2012 will help. As for FL, Santorum obviously wins just about every county in the North except for a handful, and provided he runs 2% points better (something not hard to do since McCain ran far under Bush in most of FL except the panhandle) along the I-4 corridor and SW FL, he will win (probably has Rubio on the ticket).

That leaves OH, where Santorum from nearby PA, will have an edge on the Eastern border counties. This is one area McCain already improved on over Bush in 2004, but McCain lost Central/West OH poorly, something Santorum is in much better position to carry with his labor background.

That’s 266 Electoral Votes with the carrying of NC, VA, IN, FL, and OH.

So one more state has to be carried. The traditional battlegrounds (other than the ones mentioned above) are NH, PA, MI, WI, IA, NM, CO, and NV. What we know so far is that Santorum has won caucuses in 2 of these states, with his prospects in MI rising. How many of these battleground states as Newt carried? 0, Zero, Zilch, Nada, etc.

Also, since you want to trash Rick’s electability to promote Newt’s, please tell me how Newt wins FL in a general election, barring the addition of a Rubio or West to the ticket. In 2004 and 2008, 53-55% of the General Election vote was female. Newt was already crushed by Republican Women, so please tell me why you think it will be better when Indepenet and Liberal women get to vote. That type of gender gap in that big of a state spells disaster. Sure, Santorum only got 8% of the female vote, but it wasn’t because of his unpopularity.


59 posted on 02/14/2012 1:14:23 PM PST by parksstp (I pick Rick! (If he's good enough for Mark Levin and Rush Limbaugh, he's good enough for me))
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To: Hattie

I can not believe that conservatives would ever support a flip flopping rino liberal like Romney unless they were rino liberals who have infiltrated the once conservative GOP.


109 posted on 02/16/2012 4:01:47 AM PST by kindred (Jesus Christ is the Lord God and Messiah of Israel, a present help in time of trouble.)
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