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To: teenyelliott; catman67

Am with you both, totally and completely. It is unbelievable.

When ours were in elementary school, they started telling us about questionnaires that were being distributed in the homeroom period, asking all kinds of personal questions. The kids would all get little toys or treats upon completing them. We immediately sat down with them and explained that not only did they NOT have to answer those questions, but further, that we did not want them to answer them, because their personal lives were NO ONE ELSE’S business.

We went to the teacher, and the principal, (I volunteered EVERY DAY in the school and was only a paycheck short of being an employee) and shared what we had been told, and then explained how we had instructed our kids to handle this situation in the future. We asked what was the reason for the “surveys”.... We were told that the answers provided “research information” for “organizations” that had received government grants to study various aspects of the children’s home lives! We pointed out that that was very likely an illegal act, since these were minors and no parental consent had been asked for or given. Cut to chase - that teacher stopped giving out “surveys”. In the future, other teachers did, but our kids used the paper to draw airplanes, dinosaurs and princesses, and eventually were old enough, and comfortable enough to just say no thank you, and continue on about their business.

Fast forward to freshman year college - DD has to take a “Health” class, aka sex ed. First week a speaker visits and passes around a basket filled with condoms, and tells everyone to take as many as they want, but at least one - “for a friend” if they were not going to use it themselves. You guessed it. DD just handed the basket back without taking any and in spite of a little verbal push and shove with the speaker, left the class that day without a condom for her “friend”.

What will it take for people to wake up and think for themselves?! I truly fear to imagine.

Strengthen our will Lord.
Tatt


113 posted on 02/14/2012 12:28:50 PM PST by thesearethetimes... ("Courage, is fear that has said its prayers." Dorothy Bernard)
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To: thesearethetimes...
What will it take for people to wake up and think for themselves?!

The complete removal of government involvement in education, The repeal of the 16th and 17th amendments, the prosecution of anyone taking government monies being allowed to vote and the dismantling of the Federal Reserve. But a majority of the people will need to wake up by themselves first in order for these things to happen.

115 posted on 02/14/2012 12:39:24 PM PST by Cowman (How can the IRS seize property without a warrant if the 4th amendment still stands?)
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To: thesearethetimes...
Every day, I become more outraged and less hopeful.

I would rather have my kids at home in their jammies reading books every day than sitting in these brown shirt reeducation camps.

And honestly, the behavior of the children (and really the population in general), as well as the lack of concern by everyone involved, is appalling.

I took my kids out when my now 11 year old was in second grade. Am I concerned about socialization? Why yes, I don't want my kids hanging out around little gangsters and hookers and ne'er-do-wells, thankyouverymuch. :)

116 posted on 02/14/2012 12:41:26 PM PST by teenyelliott (Obama warned if he loses the election it could herald a new, painful era of self-reliance)
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