[lentulusgracchus]

Thanks for the link. The revised link works.

First, drop that timeline, the homo thing is new (relatively), .....

Well, no, I would disagree, given the dates. From your linked source (thanks again):

WEINER: This is a myth. It's been around since 1937, since Hoover went after homosexuals and government. It was - gasoline was poured on the embers of this by Bill Donovan, Hoover's mortal enemy in government. It's been around forever.

So there is a vintage to it, and granting that it's been meat for strong politico-bureaucratic rivals and may be prisoner to various agendas (not least NPR's), still I don't think either Weiner or you can wave it off quite so casually. Conceded marker No. 2 is that homosexuals, when attacked, almost reflexively, and inevitably, countercharge the accuser with homosexuality of his own, to muddy the waters and blackguard their accuser.

IMHO it's time to get busy digging in the Nixon and Johnson presidential tapes. This subject will have come up again.

I'm also acutely interested in Hoover's and LBJ's strong relationship, and how it was that LBJ blackmailed his way onto the 1960 ticket, for the sake seemingly of an office famously reviled only 20 years before by another Texan, John Nance Garner, only to have the Presidency fall into his hands the way it did. But that's another subject that needs deep research.

[ansel12]

granting that it's been meat for strong politico-bureaucratic rivals and may be prisoner to various agendas (not least NPR's), still I don't think either Weiner or you can wave it off quite so casually.

Geez, do Whatever, just leave us adults alone.

[ansel12]

Yep, deep research.

Devote your life to that stuff, never let up, I think that you have them on the ropes.

Never let anyone trick you into joining the rest of us in our current political world.