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To: C19fan

The law of unintended consequences.

If a nation’s leftist government, say in Norway, invites so many Muslims in that its own people, the Norwegians, are marginalized, does anyone think that the Muslims would be so stupid as to continue with the stupid leftist policies that invited them in?

Heck no. The Muslims will oppress the Norwegians, institute Sharia law, and liberalism will have become a memory. They have no use for it.

I say that by comparison to California. Because stupid liberal leftists invited in unrestricted Mexican immigration, does this mean that the Mexicans they invited in are so stupid that they will continue doing the stupid, leftist things that Anglo Californians have done?

Not likely.

Fortunately for the US, unlike Muslims, Mexicans are not monolithic about *anything*. They cover the political spectrum from wildly leftist to wildly rightist, with lots of moderates in between.

The vast majority are at least nominally Catholic, and there are many more “firm” Catholics among these than there are among American Catholics.

What California has encouraged the rise of barrios, when ethnic Mexicans leave those enclaves, for the most part they become Americanized in a hurry. And many Mexicans are very hard working. And when you work hard, you are less inclined to appreciate the government taking away your money for frivolous things. Like leftist liberalism.

So what is the bottom line, here?

Right now liberal white leftists totally control the state. But when they have become the minority, I truly doubt that they will hold on to power. And what the ethnic Mexicans, legal and illegal, will do is a good question, one thing for certain is that it will not be to continue to stupidity of the liberal leftists.


21 posted on 02/13/2012 9:53:53 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
And what the ethnic Mexicans, legal and illegal, will do is a good question, one thing for certain is that it will not be to continue to stupidity of the liberal leftists.

I'm afraid you don't get it. Mexicans arrive here bathed, since birth, in hard-core socialism institutionalized by their 1919 revolution and the ascendancy of the PRI.

Furthermore, they are "culturally conservative". The practical meaning is, if grandfather and great-grandfather voted with the PRI, the great-grandchildren of today's immigrants can be counted on to vote for the most leftist politicians they can find. Even the Progs are weak tea, compared to what they're used to. That's the meaning of the social worker's quote in the article (see post #17 above):

“What Republicans mean by ‘family values’ and what Hispanics mean are two completely different things,” says John Echeveste, founder of the oldest Latino marketing firm in Southern California and a player in California Latino politics. “We are a very compassionate people; we care about other people and understand that government has a role to play in helping people.” (Emphasis supplied.)

That's what this guy is telling you. They're all hardcore socialist statists (all socialists are perforce statists; it's implicit), and importing masses of them because he knew that these people would vote overwhelmingly, generation after generation, for big-government New Deal Democrats was Lyndon Johnson's dark intention in the 1965 immigration bill.

This all has to be undone. It's an existential problem. Fail = no America.

55 posted on 02/19/2012 12:58:19 AM PST by lentulusgracchus
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