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To: Hot Tabasco; dragnet2

Not to butt in, but it might be pertinent to point out that there is an on-going criminal investigation being conducted right now regarding the deputy’s use of force and conduct, statements, actions and failures to act before and after the shooting occurred. So, it is indeed going to take some time for the facts to come out, but anyone who thinks that every split-second decision of the entire encounter won’t be dissected is hopelessly paranoid.

Second, as with any police use of force story on FR, the normal skepticism that meets any other story reported in the MSM evaporates. In my life, I’ve had occasion to read media accounts of events, statements, or situations to which I had been a witness. I’ve never seen a story that doesn’t contain numerous factual errors: an event that is reported to have happened on one street occurred a few blocks away, the time was wrong, a statement reported as a quote exactly contradicts what was actually said to the reporter. etc etc etc.

The thing is, if one is inclined to believe that the cops are all a bunch of thugs, you can read that into this story. If you’re inclined the other direction, there are pieces of the puzzle that support that reading as well.

But, by the time the facts are presented, the rabid Libertarian cop haters will have moved on to the next fresh story, and will concoct a witch’s brew of paranoid ramblings that will cite this caper as an example of “out of control police”, regardless of what the facts turn out to be. Because, for them, the point is not the truth, but justification of a world view that rejects all authority other than their own.


95 posted on 02/11/2012 3:32:35 PM PST by absalom01 (You should do your duty in all things. You can never do more, you should never wish to do less.)
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To: absalom01
Not to butt in, but it might be pertinent to point out that there is an on-going criminal investigation being conducted right now

Forget the facts, there are onsite keyboard commandos who are privy to every nuance of every LEO shooting out there, so it's best not to even attempt to dispute their indisputable claims......

98 posted on 02/11/2012 3:39:07 PM PST by Hot Tabasco (The only solution to this primary is a shoot out! Last person standing picks the candidate)
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To: absalom01
there is an on-going criminal investigation being conducted right now regarding the deputy’s use of force and conduct, statements, actions and failures to act before and after the shooting occurred.

How many versions from OCSD are you willing to accept?

Which one will you determine to be true? Which begs the question:

Why would you believe a government entity which has clearly already changed it's version of events?.

But, by the time the facts are presented, the rabid Libertarian cop haters will have moved on to the next fresh story, and will concoct a witch’s brew of paranoid ramblings

Nice try, but I've likely forgotten more about law enforcement procedures/investigations/public relations and tactics than you ever knew.

One not be a senior investigator to understand, based on that OCSD has reported and or not reported, that this shoot reeks bad.

100 posted on 02/11/2012 3:41:52 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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