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To: Wonder Warthog; Kevmo
“Excess powers in the range of 5-8 W with 170% efficiency were reported for the glow discharge experiments.”

“The registered meanings of Excess Heat power obtained in the experiments amounted to 120 – 170 W with Heat Efficiency (the ratio between output heat power and the input electrical power) 200 – 340 % in HVEC experiments.”

That is significant! (previous posts were reporting 0.08 W continuous, which suggests measurement error). I was going to make a comment about a COP exceeding one when I had a flash back. The laws of Thermodynamics stipulate that the COP of a process cannot exceed 1 (the part that is hardly ever mentioned is coming up!) barring the presence of nuclear processes.

Since the experiment ran at a measured 170% thermal efficiency I would take that as an iron clad guarantee that "nuclear processes" were, in fact, providing the excess energy. Is there any other artifact generated besides the thermal energy released? Electromagnetic waves or particles of any sort? It does seem rather odd that these reactions release nothing but heat w/ no discernible byproducts.

Nuclear power, safe as Churches, who would have thought...

Regards,
GtG

40 posted on 02/12/2012 6:27:00 PM PST by Gandalf_The_Gray (I live in my own little world, I like it 'cuz they know me here.)
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To: Gandalf_The_Gray
"(previous posts were reporting 0.08 W continuous, which suggests measurement error)."

Not really. If you actually check the full writeup, the COP for the 80 mw is 10X, and the sensitivity of the calorimeter is also given. Although small, the excess heat is WELL above the limit of detection of the calorimetry.

"Since the experiment ran at a measured 170% thermal efficiency I would take that as an iron clad guarantee that "nuclear processes" were, in fact, providing the excess energy. Is there any other artifact generated besides the thermal energy released? Electromagnetic waves or particles of any sort? It does seem rather odd that these reactions release nothing but heat w/ no discernible byproducts."

There are MANY CF experiments that have given similar excess heat ratios, and virtually all the necessary nuclear signatures have been seen (formation of He4 (and He3!), tritium, x- and gamma rays, and even the occasional stray neutron), but always at many orders of magnitude lower than can account for the excess heat.

41 posted on 02/12/2012 8:04:48 PM PST by Wonder Warthog
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