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To: SatinDoll

Oh my gosh, Satin Doll, you have just opened up a new little goldmine... thank you for finding this...

“Santorum — the father of seven children — also said that Palin has “other responsibilities,” such as raising her children, that he doesn’t.

“I don’t live in Alaska and I’m not the mother to all these kids and I don’t have other responsibilities that she has,” he said.”

So, I guess Sanctimonium is saying his approach to marriage and parenthood, is to basically let the woman do all that women’s work... while he’s out with the posse doing important man’s work in DC... what a jerk!

Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0211/49124.html#ixzz1lxPKXBik


78 posted on 02/09/2012 10:37:41 PM PST by true believer forever (Save the Irish Setters - Vote Newt!)
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To: true believer forever; Admin Moderator

Your link is to LAST YEAR’S CPAC.

Admin Mod, do we have an influx of trolls, or are they stupid people?

Your call.


110 posted on 02/10/2012 12:36:56 AM PST by dixiechick2000 (This hobbit is looking for her pitchfork...God help the GOP if I find it.)
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To: true believer forever; CharlesWayneCT; AmericanInTokyo
81 posted on Friday, February 10, 2012 12:42:14 AM by true believer forever: “I’ve yet to encounter one Sanctimonium supporter, who is openminded enough to consider any argument, polite or otherwise, against their candidate. They just leap, and say nasty stuff... If I ever find a reasonable, thoughtful, openminded Sanctimonium supporter, I will, of course, respond in kind... Believe me, I didn’t give up until I tried and tried... they are a real subset..”

Well, calling us “Sanctimonium supporters” doesn't exactly bring out the best in us... ;-)

Seriously, however, read my last post and this one.

Every candidate has their “-bots.” I am a conservative evangelical who supports Santorum, not because I think he's ideal or perfect, but because he's the best candidate left. I'm painfully aware of problems with some of his views and votes. He's not the best person out there, but I think he's better than Newt Gingrich and a **WHOLE** lot better than Mitt Romney or Ron Paul.

However, I could make a long list of my problems with Santorum, too, and some of them might be things on which you and I agree.

This, however, isn't among them:

78 posted on Friday, February 10, 2012 12:37:41 AM by true believer forever: “So, I guess Sanctimonium is saying his approach to marriage and parenthood, is to basically let the woman do all that women’s work... while he’s out with the posse doing important man’s work in DC... what a jerk!”

It's pretty clear that Rick Santorum defends traditional male and female roles. No surprise there.

I don't discuss most personal family details on the internet, but I've seen firsthand the ugly face of male bigotry against women, and while it was worse decades ago, it's not gone yet. I have decades of history as a conservative arguing that women who want to work in a man's world have every right to do so, but then they can't demand the standards be lowered to let women in.

I believe that's a choice every woman should have, but not one they should be forced into.

Lots of women would rather stay home and be wives and mothers. That's fine, too. My wife happens to be both highly educated — two masters degrees and a doctoral degree — and highly successful in her business. That's her choice, but we would not impose that choice on others.

What's sad is that liberalism claims to give women choices when it actually demeans the choices that lots of women would prefer.

I think I see Santorum saying women should have the right to choose to be at home if they want to do so. Seems like a good idea to me, and one which will resonate with many conservative women.

88 posted on Friday, February 10, 2012 12:57:11 AM by AmericanInTokyo: “Wasn’t the woman taken by the Iraqi Army in the opening salvo of the war, captured, and then RAPED??”

95 posted on Friday, February 10, 2012 1:20:47 AM by true believer forever: “Jessica Lynch, she was a tiny little blonde thing... and I don’t think the military ever published that she was raped, and I don’t know if she said that in her book. My assumption would be that she was raped... she might not have wanted to say so...”

I don't think American in Tokyo meant Jessica Lynch. If he's thinking of the first Gulf War, he's basically right about what happened to a flight surgeon after a crash.

Her case got very little publicity at the time, in significant measure because of concerns to respect her privacy and also political concerns that American public opinion would be greatly inflamed when we were trying to hold a coalition together to back our liberation of Kuwait. If it had become widely known that an American officer was sexually assaulted after her capture, I'm not convinced that President George H.W. Bush could have prevented a massive outcry demanding that we go all the way to Baghdad to throw out Saddam Hussein. Hindsight is 20-20 and maybe that would have been a good thing, but considering the political realities in the Arab world in the late 1980s and early 1990s, nobody knows what would have happened if the coalition had fragmented and we had lost our basing locations in Saudi Arabia. Logistically, we were in a much better position to do what we did in the second Gulf War when we could rely on basing locations in Kuwait, but even then we had to deal with political problems from Turkey.

Years later, I heard her give a lecture on the subject at a conference for women's mental health issues in the military. I forget now whether she was a general or a colonel when she gave her speech, but the key point is she stayed in the military and worked to help women deal with issues related to serving in the military.

Good for her. Lots of women and men would never remain in the service after an experience like that, and I wouldn't blame them for that decision.

One qualification: “sexually assaulted” would be a better word for what I heard happened to her. However, she may not have wanted to go into more details in a public forum, and what she said was bad enough.

138 posted on 02/10/2012 4:44:35 AM PST by darrellmaurina
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