Donny: Are these the Nazis, Walter?
Walter Sobchak: No, Donny, these men are nihilists, there's nothing to be afraid of.
Posted on 02/09/2012 12:23:01 PM PST by spirited irish
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Nope. Creation out of nothing is exactly what the generally accepted Big Bang Theory postulates.
Anyone who claims to be a nihilist is not one...
Romans 8:7-8
For the mind that is set on the flesh is hostile to God; it does not submit to God’s law, indeed it cannot; and those who are in the flesh cannot please God.
The problems we face have their root in the sinfulness of each and every human heart. JEREMIAH 17:9 states “The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?” but ROMANS 6:23 gives us hope, “For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.”
“Nope. Creation out of nothing is exactly what the generally accepted Big Bang Theory postulates.”
Amen brother.
nothing banged?
The Big Bang does not teach that there was a big bang out of nothing. Something was already there in the very beginning and exploded for some unknown reason to help create the known universe. This, of course, is a pure crock, but it has many scientific degrees pinned to it. As such, you are not allowed to publicly say how dumb this theory really is.
Donny: Are these the Nazis, Walter?
Walter Sobchak: No, Donny, these men are nihilists, there's nothing to be afraid of.
According to Ricky Martin and William Hung “She Bang”. ;)
Hmmm, not the Big Bang that I was taught... The two variations I was exposed two were:
1) All matter was extruded into this dimension through a tiny “hole” or “tear” in the higher dimension and began to rapidly expand, or
2) All matter in exitence compressed into an incredibly small area, and the instability of that mass/area resulted in the Big Bang.
No legitimate, modern physicist that I am aware of has postulated that everything began as nothing.
Interesting.
Thee BBT as I understand it states everything we know came into existence as a singularity. Before this (to the extent it is possible to speak of “before” when space-time did not yet exist) there was nothing.
IOW, our Universe did not exist, and then it did.
If that isn’t “creation out of nothing” I’m not sure what would be. I believe by definition the question of what existed before the BB is unanswerable. Therefore assuming there was something else from which it started is and can be no more (or less) scientific than a belief it was created from nothing. It’s not a question science (at least in present form) can answer.
Claims that matter entered our Universe from another, causing the BB just moves the “where did it start” question into another Universe. Just as those who claim life started on Earth from comets don’t really answer the question of how life started, they just move the question around.
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The singularity unfolded itself because of its own nature. Not a Big Bang, but more of a very rapid and energetic Unfolding that still continues.
That may be one theory. But it looks like centuries separated out the oral composition of the Vedas and the birth of Buddha, so if there was a monotheistic god at one point in Indian tradition it wasn't Buddha who took that god away.
People are going to believe all kinds of things for the forseeable future. If you think you've got the right philosophy, try to live by it and we'll see. But I doubt everything you disapprove of is just going to roll up and disappear.
Say what you want about the tenets of National Socialism, at least it’s an ethos.
Spirited irish - I agree with almost everything in the article but I can’t post it, since Hinduism is neither new nor nihilist; some (or much!) of what is touted as “Hinduism” especially in the west is actually a gross deviation and perversion of what is in the Vedic or Hindu scriptures. The actual foundation of Hinduism is monotheism; it’s a long topic and if I had time to spend on the thread discussing then I would ping it. Alas, that is not the case; I hope you understand. Maybe if tomorrow I find I have time to discuss on the thread I’ll ping it out.
Nimrod (Amraphel), Buddha, Kant, Hegel, Marx, Freud, Nietzsche et al share the distinction of being ‘God killers’ and inventers of philosophy’s and systems whose greatest appeal is to individuals who hope to perfect and/or purify themselves even though there is no source for self.
True Christianity is neither a religion nor a philosophy but rather a personal relationship with the living Spirit of God.
You said “But I doubt everything you disapprove of is just going to roll up and disappear.”
Reducing the profound meaning of the essay to ‘spite” (disapproval) is childish. And no, none of it will roll up and go away because there is a reason for its’ existence. It exists for those who prefer empty philosophy’s over a relationship with the Spirit of God. It exists to serve as a winnow, so to speak.
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