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It's still a technical thread. The discussion slid over to a real problem with mathematics that almost always appears to be theoretical to engineers or even, as you noted, philosophical to physicists.

We currently have a runaway situation in math ~ we have found it can describe conditions in some detail in universes/realities beyond our own. What that does instantly is substantially discount the future utility of math in predicting anything at all!

My point was math hadn't predicted Rogue Waves. However, once we had some mathematicians who believed Rogue Waves were possible, they came up with predictive mathematics ~ with a distinct quantum mechanical point of view.

Rogue Waves are still "Rogue Waves" that just pop up out of an assortment of other smaller waves ~ because they can. Which raises the question ~ what do you really think the Japanese are trying to hide at that reactor?

I don't know, you're getting into areas I don't feel qualified commenting on as I have seen nothing like it in the physics I have been taught or the journals I read (things like IEEE Spectrum, Physical Review, American Scientist, Nuclear News, Health Physics, etc.). As far as anything being “hidden” at the Japanese reactors, I have no proof that anything is being hidden, all I have is what I read in the public record and what people I know in the industry and elsewhere have told me (e.g., people I know at DoE, NRC, and others). I have not been to the site myself, nor do I have plans to go there, so I cannot claim any first-hand knowledge of what is going on. But nothing I have read or heard leads me to think there is any kind of deep, dark, sinister conspiracy. Yes, there has been a lot of confusion, speculation, misunderstandings, and in some cases technical errors. But I don't see anyone sinister behind the curtain manipulating and/or coordinating it all. All I can do is work with the information I have, run the numbers, try to keep a cool head, and apply the scientific knowledge and experience I have from four years of college, five years of graduate school, and 32 years in the business.

what do you really think the Japanese are trying to hide at that reactor?

That they have such a large problem on their hands that there are just too many things that are not working to get this problem under control.