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To: patlin
You make a big deal about the different sections from Kent. He said that the president must be a natural born citizen, and later in the same paragraph that he must be a native citizen. So are you claiming these two are not equivalent? Are you claiming that native means something other than "born on the soil"? Your links go to The Founder's Constitution site which posts only a small section, or to a PDF which appears to be a first edition of Kent's Commentaries. Note that the opinion in WKA cites the sixth edition
"Natives are all persons born within the jurisdiction and allegiance of the United States. This is the rule of the common law, without any regard or reference to the political condition or allegiance of their parents, with the exception of the children of ambassadors, who are in theory born within the allegiance of the foreign power they represent. . . .
You are very free with the insults, and also with trying to obfuscate Kent's plain statements. Perhaps you should check later additions before you throw around accusations and insults.
556 posted on 02/09/2012 6:09:11 PM PST by sometime lurker
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To: sometime lurker
FYI...Kent wasn't alive in 1898, thus any new addition with reference to WKA is of the author of that addition & not of Kent himself. But nice try. But that was not the point. You cut & pasted taken out of context garbage from a well know obot site meant to specifically obfuscate the truth. Next time you might want to make sure you are actually quoting truth & not cut & paste lies.

I prefer to get my information from the actual author, not those that twist the authors words long after they are dead. You should try it sometime.

558 posted on 02/09/2012 6:16:29 PM PST by patlin ("Knowledge is a powerful source that is 2nd to none but God" ConstitutionallySpeaking 2011)
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To: sometime lurker
my mistake, I misread & thought you meant a copy of Kent mentioned WKA. But it still doesn't take away from the fact that what Gray cited from is in Kent's section on natives which is a distinctly different class that that of natural. Also,the 12th edition reads no different from the 1st that I cited. I haven't been able to locate an online copy of the 6th, but if the 12th is the same as the 1st, it's highly doubtful the the 6th reads any different. Therefore, according to Kent, the term native is NOT equivalent to natural. And while his commentaries are very informative, it is clear why he was never selected to serve on the US Supreme court. He still held to much British in his blood.

http://books.google.com/books?id=G2MPAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA52&dq=COMMENTARIES+ON+AMERICAN+LAW,+%22Natives+are+all+persons+born%22&hl=en&sa=X&ei=G380T7r2KMmC2wW0uoyEAg&ved=0CDoQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q&f=false

562 posted on 02/09/2012 6:47:00 PM PST by patlin ("Knowledge is a powerful source that is 2nd to none but God" ConstitutionallySpeaking 2011)
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