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To: Rides3
“Sounds reasonable, until you realize that NOT every child born in the U.S. was a natural born citizen from the time of the Declaration of Independence on. Some weren't even citizens, at all. Blacks were not provided birthright citizenship until the Civil Rights Act of 1866 and subsequently the 14th Amendment, and Native Americans weren't provided birthright citizenship until the Indian Citizenship Act of 1924.

Blows your theory all to hell.”


Well you are wrong, of course. The above actually supports the idea that “Natural Born Citizen means Citizen at Birth” and also supports the ideas that:
1.) Citizenship can be granted at birth, automatically, through legislation.
2.) That the Founders really did not want to get too deep into a discussion of citizenship, due to the problems of Slavery and American Indians or “Native Americans”

It must, further, be asked of Birthers why they want the PR disaster of going into the “intent” of the Founders on citizenship, since the greatest political document in history STILL had to make compromises due to slavery and the Indians. It was not the “intent” of our Founders that any American Indian should be President yet does anyone deny that Indians ARE full citizens, Natural Born Citizens if born in the United States? Such right was granted by STATUTE and not by any Constitutional Amendment.

Just as the Natural Born Citizenship status of John McCain was granted BY Statute or by simple LEGISLATION concerning the citizenship of children born of citizen parents on foreign soil.

194 posted on 02/07/2012 6:00:50 AM PST by Kansas58
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To: Kansas58
"It must, further, be asked of Birthers why they want the PR disaster of going into the “intent” of the Founders on citizenship, since the greatest political document in history STILL had to make compromises due to slavery and the Indians."

The actual historical facts are what they are. NOT every child born in the U.S. was a natural born citizen from the time of the Declaration of Independence, on. Some were specifically excluded, as you note. The fact that this was corrected nearly a century and more later with the Civil Rights Act of 1866, the 14th Amendment, and the Indian Citizenship Act of 1924 does NOT change the fact that NBS was NOT the same as NBC. To say that it was is extremely flawed logic. The Wong Kim Ark decision even confirms that by specifically NOT declaring Wong Kim Ark a natural born citizen, as noted by both Ankeny v. Daniels and the GA judge. Do you consider the Wong Kim Ark decision to be a PR disaster, as well?

235 posted on 02/07/2012 9:05:26 AM PST by Rides3
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