Posted on 02/04/2012 10:25:49 AM PST by bkopto
The emerging conflict between the Catholic Church and the Obama administration may have a new front: in the U.S. military itself.
The Catholic Church is fighting mad about an HHS ruling that would have them buy insurance for things they consider sinful–contraception, sterilization and abortion.
All the bishops in the country sent out a letter to be read in their parishes promising that the Church "cannot-and will not-comply with this unjust law."
Even Archbishop Timothy Broglio, who is in charge of Catholic military chaplains sent out the same letter.
But after he did, the Army's Office of the Chief of Chaplains sent out another communication forbidding Catholic priests to read the letter, in part because it seemed to encourage civil disobedience, and could be read as seditious against the Commander-in-Chief.
More than one Catholic chaplain who spoke to us off the record confirmed that many chaplains disobeyed this instruction and read the letter anyway.
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The letter also tries to clarify to priests that the Archbishop's letter "concerns a moral, not a political issue."
While it is true that soldiers do not have an unlimited right to free speech or political action, the military does not want to strain relations with the Catholic Church and its chaplains who provide services to many service members of all faiths.
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Put an end to all this MARXIST B.S. once and for all!
I do a fair amount w/ the church.
If you have specific suggestions, please feel free.
Thanks for your kind response.
Thanks much.
I lost track of Jerry after Byte’s demise.
Much appreciate the link.
Good on that Mother Superior, BTW.
Thx for your kind reply.
I do think that FR needs to be WISE
about where it puts its umph.
There’s a LOT of futility going to come more and more glaringly to light in the next 12 months.
1. Humankind is the best thing this planet has seen in the known universe, not to mention right here on this rock;
2. Humankind starts when the sperm impregnates the egg and starts to divide with particular DNA, chromosomes, genes, etc. Before that, the egg and sperm are little more than bacteria;
3. People argue when a fetus is viable. I say at the time it became a fetus. Look above for when it becomes such;
4. First semester, second semester, and third semester arguments are just that - arguments for those who don't accept the concept of humans being conceived once the male sperm and the female egg combine. Sorry libs, when you're pregnant, you're pregnant, and that means this is a growing person inside you;
5. I'm sick of the religious (my god is better than your god) argument. We need to realize that a human is created by US! It's so simple. Again, when the sperm with its DNA hits the Egg DNA and starts to multiply;
6. Let's go back to the semester thing. I challenge anyone to prove to me when human life begins after conception. What's the parameters? When the cells start to divide? What? Two, 20, 5,000, a million, a billions? When the heart starts beating (that's early)? When the brain forms to recognize sounds (as proven by studies)? When it is viable enough to exist outside the body? What? When? What week? Tell me.
None of you have no idea in your selfish simplistic thinking when a human becomes a human.
I know many are going read this and pray that I find religion in this debate, sorry, I'm an agnostic so that's a non-starter.
What I do know is that the human race is the best thing ever seen. While I hope there is something more, I believe that to kill an innocent human in the womb is probably the most atrocious act humanity can do. We fight brutal wars against each other, but at least that is men/women against each other who have fighting chance. A fetus in the womb has NO chance, I repeat, NO chance to fight for its existence.
For the liberal/progressive/greenie/Gaia types who don't get the above, think of pushing a knife in the head of a puppy-dog just before it comes out (as in late term abortions - would love to watch the horror of PETA if they actually saw that). Or, think of doing THAT to a baby seal that gets NO chance to even exist.
You liberal/progressive/socialist/commies are the bain of mankind. You claim you're supporting Planned Parenthood for the better of women, but somewhere down inside you know you are killing human beings.
Abortion is inhumane, period.
I think military priests see they are being forced out of service.
Some people have gone over the PC bridge,and no matter what you say to them , they are too indoctrinated to hear any truth, i.e., 95% black, 45% catholic, more 75% self-hating jew, and 100% white liberal succubi, voted for an unknown half-caf, to sooth their feelings . San Jose is hosting a Muslim indoctrination forum, where all the little kids are invited to hear a Muslim woman talk about all the glories of Islam. And some Muslim propaganda books will be for sale too. That’s how completely lost these liberals are; they hate Christians, but will coddle shariah like it was the same as secularism-—truely sad state we are.
I’m not catholic, but this has nothing to do with “being catholic” it’s about religious freedom, specifically the First Sentence of the First Amendment.
Without religious freedom, you have NO freedom. Shame on this government.
The Military Is Now Telling Catholic Chaplains What They Can And Can't Say About The 0_bomination Administration
Article, then Pastor Martin Niemöller's quote at # 2.
Another version:
"First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out --
Because I was not a Socialist.
"Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out --
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.
"Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out --
Because I was not a Jew.
"Then they came for me -- and there was no one left to speak for me. "
You’ve got *weeks* of good reading there.
BTW, that is the only site besides FR that I send money to. Well, and a little from time to time to Michael Yon.
“One cut at a time makes for a slow death of a country.”
The rate and proliferation of such “cuts” is speeding up.
IT IS NOW UP TO US TO STAND UP TO THIS CHALLENGE AND WIPE OUT SOCIALISM/COMMUNISM/MARXISM/REVOLUTIONARIES/ISLAMIC SHARIA LAW SYMPATHYZERS FROM THIS WHITE HOUSE!
Swallow your fear, dig deep within yourself for the courage, say a prayer, unite with like minded people and fight this oppression at every turn, until we can remove the oboma vermin from OUR White House.
Understandable.
What’s Michael Yon up to these days. I don’t recall what I know of him but his name rings a faint bell.
We must ALL join forces against this evil persecution...it has started and we all see it....now grab a hold of your courage and fight it!
NOT FEAR at all.
I’ve just read the script in Scripture.
There will likely be no deliverance from the globalist satanic machine until after Armageddon.
I believe we are to speak up and act AS LED OF THE LORD. And when led of The Lord, fruit from our actions will accrue.
Otherwise, it is futility and suffering as far as the eye can see.
Only what’s done for Christ will last . . . at all.
The political charade is a distraction sucking up money, interest, energy and time . . . to no good or effective result.
The real evils go on barely even under the table any more.
This audio recording of OThuga’s felonies etc. is just a hint.
The folks who put him in power will either leave him there or replace him.
It won’t matter greatly to the over all scheme of things.
They are determined to have the Biblically predicted one world government ASAP.
And their OThuga Destroyer-in-Chief is merely the current top stooge in our sphere. They can change him in a flash any number of ways. They can put a new one in with more ‘conservative’ window dressing . . . or they can keep him in and wind him up tighter turning the heat up a list of ways.
Everyone of any merit whatsoever seems to be convinced that the utter economic melt-down is headed our way this year.
Perhpas WW3 is, as well.
Certainly hunger will likely take a great leap.
Changing the masks on the stooges in DC will not change that greatly.
I have hung myself out to dry fighting globalism, Marxism, socialism for decades. I’m probably on the red list for my troubles.
If The Lord doesn’t Rapture us out of here soon, He alone knows the traumas ahead.
He has promised to be with us and never foresake us. He is our only hope in any regard on any score.
Does the military tell the Islamic chaplains this? Didn’t think so.
Thanks bkopto.
See this for what it is....and fight it, resist it, and destroy it. We must remove this vermin in the White House, and return this country to the Constitution, freedom and liberty. We have the fight of our lives ahead of us...and we must be in it to win it.
I retired about 10 years ago. I never had anyone tell me what I could or couldn’t say.
Like I said, that was 10 years ago.
Reading between the lines, I think there is now a huge push to make non-religious events be religion free, and the chaplains are pretty well able to be themselves in their own worship setting.
I do not believe that was the intent behind having chaplains. It certainly wasn’t George Washington’s intent.
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