Posted on 02/03/2012 11:37:06 AM PST by VinL
You did not misread the headline; and its not just a truism about Mr. Gingrichs political orientation, I mean hes correctthat Floridas winner-take-all primary system isnt fair.
According to Republican National Committee guidelines, all contests held prior to April 1 must allocate delegates proportionally. But Florida, not wishing to change procedures or fall behind other states, decided to flout the RNC rule, which means that Mitt Romney will get all 50 of its delegates. Mr. Gingrichwho came in secondwill get none. Under a proportional system, Mr. Romney would receive 23 and Mr. Gingrich 16.
Not only that, NPR has calculated that Mr. Gingrich would currently be leading his rival 39 to 32 overall (New Hampshire plus South Carolina plus Florida), if delegates were allotted proportionally.
Mr. Gingrichs campaign, which has surely done the same math as NPR, has complained to the Florida G.O.P., and consequently left me in a rather unfamiliar position. For perhaps the first time in my life, I completely agree with the former House speaker and future moon colonist.
Mr. Gingrich might have raised this issue before the Florida primary, when some polls suggested he could eke out enough of a plurality to benefit from the winner-take-all system. I doubt he would care about the RNC guidelines if hed managed to win, and I doubt Floridas delegates will be instrumental in determining whether Mr. Romney or Mr. Gingrich earns the G.O.P. nomination.
But the point is that a candidate in a two-person, winner-take-all primary could get 49.9 percent of the votes, and receive no delegates, and thats not right. As our editorial board has said many times, both parties rules should be rewritten to guarantee that the number of delegates a candidate receives accurately reflects his percentage of the popular vote. (snip)
(Excerpt) Read more at loyalopposition.blogs.nytimes.com ...
You need to be very careful if you donate money at the 360 site... they have several donation links and ads, that most people assume are linking to the official campaign, but they are not, the links are for donations to 360. I personally know one person who donated $500 there, thinking it was going to Newt, but it went to 360, and another person donated, thinking it was going to Newt, but was able to get a refund.
Here are 2 links of official Newt pages for volunteers:
NEWT’S NEWTWORK of volunteers, grassroots and field staff
http://newtsnetwork.com/
National phone banks for Newt:
www.newt.org/activism/pb/
www.newt.org/states - Nevada and Georgia are being featured right now...
To my knowledge, there has never been any restraint on audience participation during the debates in the past. It was very enthusiastic during the South Carolina debates. The debate that incurred the “silence” command was one of the few on regular t.v. The moderator didn't want to look like a goof on national t.v., imho. The next Fla debate..the silence ban was lifted..and benefited Mitt..not Newt. “Leveling the playing field”? Why should that even enter into the equation.
I actually took the Bain Capital attack as an attack on the halo Mitt continually places above his head. The media, as often happens, distorted the intent.
GOOD. We need to take a few more tactics from the leftist playbook. Exactly how long did it take for the left to get the Komen foundation to back down from the pro-life people? We need that kind of clout. We need people to know we can get things done and turn things around as soon as we chose to. We need to make them think twice before they take us on in any way, shape or form. We need to scare the heck out of them.. We need a great grand bastard - and we have one... his name is Newton Leroy.
These are not days for timid souls looking for a lily pad...
Anyone want to bet that Mitt got Trump’s endorsement by making him a deal about China, which suits Trump’s business plans? He was dead set on Newt and then..........wham!
I agree with you.
Heard on the radio this past evening that there were about 250,000 less Republican voters in the FL primary this time than in 2008. That’s incredible, if true. Given of how much we hear of wanting to get rid of the socialist/marxist in the White House, that there were fewer rather than more voters speaks volumes of how unhappy people are with their choices for the nominee this year.
WHAT YOU SAID!
You are making the salient point. As we know from 76, 92, 96, 08 - and the establishment resistance to Reagan - the RNC is not intuitive about winning in the general. They think anyone who has found a way to make gobs of money- so often done through connections or inheritance rather than skill- can become a successful political candidate. Mittens is clearly stiff, tone deaf and so unused to criticism that he thinks teddy bear Bret Baier is being too hard on him. Yet all the RNC sees in Mitt is economic success, a physically attractive candidate still married to his first wife, who once won an election in MA, and they think he can sweep the nation. I don’t see it at all. Most people will think he’s had too much handed to him & aren’t about to give him the presidency, too. I believe the MSM thinks
Mitt will be the easiest target they’ve had in a long time.
BTW, Mitt’s “I don’t care about the poor b/c they have a safety net” has been part of his stump speech. He’s said it before. This is just the first time the MSM focused on it. How clueless would a candidate and his advisers have to be to come up with such phrasing. Clinton and Reagan, the two best politicians of our era, both came from nothing to the presidency because they instinctively know better. (I don’t count Obama b/c the media manipulated the presentation of him to the public. He can’t speak well off the TelePrompTer, is not charming and doesn’t appear to connect interpersonally).
I listen to Rush’s shows online after the fact, when there is less
interruption. He readily proves how the MSM monitors his every word. If he were to endorse someone who did not become the nominee, or overtly criticized the eventual nominee, that is all you would hear during the general. AND it would be used as evidence that he is not influential, which of course he does not want.
Rush has often said that conservatism wins every time it’s tried. Mitt has
never been a conservative and Newt went after Paul Ryan - which is his worst sin, in my opinion. It still makes my purist fiscal conservative brother apoplectic. I’d still go for Newt, but if FL is any indication, most women won’t. Santorum has walked the walk in many ways, but he appears to be after the VP slot on the Romney ticket by diluting the vote for Newt & on the theory that he will bring conservatives to Romney. Doubt it.
Seeing all this, Rush, like most of us, is dismayed. He denigrates the RNC/Beltway “wizards of smart” who have brought us to this pass. He thinks the RNC has serious doubts that Obama can be beaten, but also that the RNC does not recognize how dangerous Obama will be in a second term. The RNC thinks Romney has a better chance than Newt to
help them achieve what they really care about - controlling Congress - and, as a secondary matter, a better chance at the longshot goal of beating Obama. Remember, the RNC is still running around like it was in 08 saying that we can’t attack Obama because he’s black, has a cute family and, in their minds, is loved. (At least by those in Georgetown, Manhattan and the Hamptons, whom they want to please.)
Rush, however, sees Obama for what he is. So Rush has two choices:
advise listeners to stay home & give Obama 4 more years to double down on destroying the country, or to hold their noses and vote for whoever the fools in the RNC shove at us. My view is that there won’t be enough of us willing to do the latter. So we’d best get ourselves to tax free states, try to purge the establishment wherever we find them and vote for Tea Party candidates at every other level. I’d still vote for Newt as long as you have the option. We here in Virginia have had that right taken from us. Sic semper tyrannis. How ironic.
BS, Just today Rush and his wife picked a soldier and sent him to the Super Bowl.
This fixation that somehow Rush is supposed to do exactly what you say...or else, is absurd.
He gave a lot of good stuff for Newt this week. People should get off his back. He has always held that he doesn’t pick a primary candidate. That is our job.
Fine, don’t listen to him anymore and leave him alone if you aren’t happy.
Nobody is forced to listen and he isn’t going to be bullied.
Rush Limbaugh = Karl Rove.
We shouldn’t reflect the RNC. They and their candidates should reflect us.
Good answer
The GOP base should have coalesced behind the most electable conservative six months ago. If Republicans go forward with this failed strategym then when Romney is the nominee they really will have no one to blame but themselves.
Electable conservatives sat this one out because of what the MSM did to Sarah Palin. And what the RNC, Boehner & McConnell do to conservatives. The message seems to be: keep fighting in the state & Congressional races. Try to build up numbers there to challenge the leadership & keep Obama in check until 2016.
Well there is blame everywhere you look. I think Jon Huntsman, for example, could have beaten Obama, easily. And he is more conservative than most conservatives who was defeated by several factors but primarily a disproportionately influential right wing media environment that rewarded failed candidates. The regret over this season is going to be massive.
You obviously don't listen to Rush every day as I do - or if you do, you must have a severe problem with comprehension.
It doesn't have to be explicit to be implicit.
Thanks for your calling card. I am justifiably on alert, though my sense is that you can contribute admirably to the conversation if you apply yourself.
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