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EU: Ireland begins bitter referendum debate
Presseurop ^ | 2/1/2012

Posted on 02/01/2012 10:29:22 PM PST by bruinbirdman

“Fiscal treaty designed to avoid Irish referendum,” headlines the Irish Times. According to Irish law, all new EU treaties must be put to a national plebiscite. However, an anonymous EU official has told the Dublin daily that the fiscal treaty agreed on Monday January 30 “was specifically crafted” to avoid the scenario of the Lisbon treaty referendum of 2008, which was rejected, thus delaying its coming into force.

Conceding that the decision to hold a vote could well go to the Irish Supreme Court, the official argued that a referendum has “nothing to do with democracy.” The Irish Times notes that –

"While it is not absolutely clear which parts of the treaty were written to suit the Government, Irish officials are known to have sought scope to adopt strict new limits to debt and deficits in legislation rather than through the Constitution."

Nevertheless, Irish opposition parties including Fianna Fáil and Sinn Féin are lining up mount a legal challenge to force a vote, writes the Irish Examiner, in a context of increasingly bitter debates in parliament.

Irish Times European correspondent Arthur Beesley notes that while Ireland has been “no stranger” to “intrusive external oversight of its internal affairs” since the €85 billion EU/ECB/IMF bailout of 2010, the new treaty could bind the country to such oversight “forever.”

"It is one thing, of course, to submit to the unforgiving writ of the troika in an emergency situation in which the State is shut out of private debt markets. It is quite another to accept the hands of future governments will be tied by Ireland’s expanding obligations to Europe – even when the State can stand on its own two feet again."

Beesley also suggest that if the mooted referendum were rejected, this “would seriously impede Ireland’s return to markets.”

"More importantly still is the fact that countries which do not ratify the pact within 13 months will have no further right to aid from the permanent bailout fund of the European Stability Mechanism. Observers may well see something decidedly nasty in that provision, which was a German idea."


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bullyingtactics; europeanunion; ireland; propagandacampaign

1 posted on 02/01/2012 10:29:25 PM PST by bruinbirdman
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To: bruinbirdman
Naked imperialism, threatening to shut anyone out of their markets in return for not obeying their bidding—and bidding in particular designed to eliminate your sovereignty. At least the Irish Times is starting to wake up a little bit; they've been the most pro-EU out of the Irish newspapers.
2 posted on 02/01/2012 10:33:13 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: bruinbirdman

It would be smarter for Ireland to be willing to take the hit.

They might experience severe economic contraction, but like Iceland, they’d get out of it eventually.

Without EU’s help.


3 posted on 02/01/2012 10:34:29 PM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: bruinbirdman; Tax-chick

Ireland out of the EU!


4 posted on 02/02/2012 3:24:20 AM PST by Incorrigible (If I lead, follow me; If I pause, push me; If I retreat, kill me.)
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To: Incorrigible; Colosis; Black Line; Cucullain; SomeguyfromIreland; Youngblood; Fergal; Cian; ...

Good luck to them!

(Ireland ping!)


5 posted on 02/02/2012 5:28:26 AM PST by Tax-chick (View new baby pictures on the Tax-chick page!)
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To: bruinbirdman
For 700 years, the Irish resisted being ruled from London. Without much consideration of national sovereignty, they have allowed Brussels to take them over. Weird.
6 posted on 02/02/2012 6:12:10 AM PST by elhombrelibre ("I'd rather be ruled by the Tea Party than the Democratic Party." Norman Podhoretz)
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