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To: edge919

Read the citation you gave me.

Then read everything I have posted on this thread.

Have I ever “doubted” that a person born in this country, of citizen parents, was a Natural Born Citizen?

No, I have not.

I only present to you that your citation, due to the rules of the English Language, are not exclusive.

I am telling you that your “Case Law” which is now moot, anyway, does not LIMIT NBC to such cases at all, does it?

Your citation clearly allows for other forms of Natural Born Citizenship.


309 posted on 02/02/2012 7:50:02 AM PST by Kansas58
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To: Kansas58
I only present to you that your citation, due to the rules of the English Language, are not exclusive.

You don't seem to understand the rules of English. These "rules" are what makes the definition exclusive. The other thing that makes the definition exclusive is the context of why the definition was given. There's no point in singling out citizen parents unless it establishes a completely separate class of citizens — separate from the 14th amendment upon which Virginia Minor made her claim to citizenship — which is what the court did. That separate class was the ONLY class of citizens characterized as natural-born citizens.

Toward the end of the decision, the court says: "Our province is to decide what the law is, not to declare what it should be." So when they defined natural-born citizenship, that set of criteria — born in the country to citizen parents — is what the law is. You're trying to say that a class of citizens for whom the court said there is doubt is what NBC should be. That's not what the court said, because there is doubt about them just being citizens. Resolving doubts might make them citizens, but it wouldn't make them natural-born citizens ... because there is only one set of criteria for which there is no doubt. That lack of doubt is what makes that class "natural-born." The citation does NOT allow for other forms of natural-born citizenship, else that characterization would not have been placed in the sentence immediately following the type of citizenship for which there is no doubt.

The other problem is that the source of their definition, which is clearly from the law of nations does NOT allow for so-called "other forms of Natural Born Citizenship." Read the law of nations. There's no other natural-born citizenship described or allowed for. Why would the court use a narrow definition if it is intentionally allowing for "other forms of Natural Born Citizenship"??? The answer: They wouldn't.

317 posted on 02/02/2012 8:08:13 AM PST by edge919
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