Wait a sec. They allow the importation of the M1 Garand because it doesn’t have a magazine, but I got the following from here: http://www.minutemanreview.com/2008/09/clip-vs-magazine-lesson-in-firearm.html
“A magazine is what is used to feed the weapon itself, whereas a clip is used to feed the magazine. Clips make loading of magazines much easier and faster, and in some cases, a clip is required in order for the magazine to work (e.g. M1 Garand).”
So, which is it?
The Garand has an internal magazine which can be reasonably quickly loaded with a stripper clip (you strip the rounds out of the clip and into the magazine.)
Odumbo’s beef with the carbine is that it has detachable “high-capacity” magazines. Those are inherently evil, and must be banned.
The M1 Garand has a fixed 8 round magazine that you load via a clip that you push down into the rifle. When the last round is fired the clip ejects from the rifle and you are ready to load the next clip into the magazine.
What the M1 carbine has is a detachable magazine that can hold from 15 to 30 rounds. A clip is not needed unless you are loading the magazine from the open bolt of the rifle.
The old saying is “you can load a magazine with a clip, but you can’t load a clip with a magazine”.
'It' is not Magazine vs No Magazine. As they both have 'magazines'.
'It' is the fact that the .30 cal M1 Carbine comes with a standard 15 round, (cough-BS) 'high capacity', detachable magazine. While the 30-06 cal M1 Garand has an eight round, 'fixed', internal magazine (which is typically 'Clip' fed. But can be done by hand too, like with my 5 round 8mm Mauser, or an SKS)
So regardless of the facts of the ballistics between the two 'rifle rounds(1)' the gun-grabbers naturally assume that if us knuckle-draggers got these Carbines we'd immediately buy a dozen 30 round magazines and go on killing sprees.
HERE is a picture of the two rifles.
(1) Ruger makes, or used to, a Blackhawk model revolver in .30 cal carbine. Fun little round to shoot. Kinda like an up scaled .22LR
The carbine takes a removable magazine (often referred to as a clip). These mags can also be loaded with stripper clips that are less bulky than removable magazines.
From a logical perspective, the Obama policy is idiocy designed to make the Brady bunch happy. M1 carbines go for $600-800 and aren't exactly common thug weapons.
However, right-wingers love them.
Interesting note:
In WWII, many German infantry learned that this 'ping' was the sound made by an empty Garand when the clip hit the ground. They would hear this ping and pop up and commence fire on the source of the sound. The US GIs learned this pretty quickly so they carried an extra supply of clips so when they were only half empty they'd toss a clip, wait for the German infantry man to pop up and then shoot him. Kinda like the game Whack-a-Mole.
A clip is a clip is a clip, but not all clips are the same. In the old days (WWI) rifles were built with magazines as part of the rifle's action. They were built into a box like chamber with a spring and a metal follower to press fresh ammunition upward with each cycle of the manual bolt. The Springfield, Lee-Enfield, and Mauser which differed in detail design all utilized an internal box magazine of anywhere between 5 to 10 rounds. Reloading, with the bolt fully open, was accomplished by placing a "stripper clip" into a notched guide machined into the ejection port of the rifle and pressing down on the cartridges, stripping them from the clip into the magazine. Removing the empty clip and closing the bolt completed the reload. This provided a great increase in speed when loading a rifles magazine as opposed to manually loading one round at a time.
Most "clips" in use today are used to feed ammunition into a detachable magazine (through some kind of adapter device). They are stilled called "stripper clips" because they allow ammunition to be carried and loaded (stripped off the clip) into a weapon's detached magazine, preloading it for subsequent use.
The M1 Garand used a unique type clip which is not used in any production rifle today. The Garand clip is referred to as an "en bloc" clip and it holds eight rounds together, the entire loaded clip is inserted into the M1 Garand's action. This allows for rapid reloads of eight rounds at a time and makes for easier carrying of clips in a bandoleer. The downside of the en bloc idea came with the last shot as the expended cartridge and clip were both ejected from the rifle leaving it ready for a reload of eight more rounds. The older bolt actions could be "topped off" during a lull with loose rounds without running them completely empty. The more critical problem was a very distinctive PING when the sheet metal clip was ejected. Enemy combatants eventually learned that when they heard that PING, you were holding an empty rifle and were temporarily out of the fight while reloading. Hopefully your buddies were still covering you and all went well however if you heard two or three PINGs closely spaced, your position could count on greatly increased incoming fire. The PING was a "tell" rather like the CLACK from an AK-47s safety. Sometimes your life hangs on exceedingly frail threads...
Regards,
GtG
The M-1 Garand has a fixed internal magazine, it is normally loading by inserting a “stripper” clip which holds 8 rounds. This is pushed down and then the hand must be jerked away quickly because the bolt automatically slams shut and can take the end of your thumb off. The first round loads when the bolt closes and when the 8th round is fired the stripper clip ejects automatically and in combat it would be left where it fell, the bolt remains open until another clip is inserted. In civilian use the stripper clip can be reused.
The M-1 carbine has a removable magazine much like you might find on a semi-auto hunting rifle. It is common for people to refer to the removable magazine as a clip but this is careless usage of terms.
