They Killed Him

Townhall.com ^ | January 30, 2012 | Bruce Bialosky

[PA BOOKENDS]

OK. You go on living in you’re fantasy world where you’re omniscient, omnipotent and ominpresent. And, God, please have mercy on us mortals.

[Chewbarkah]

“All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing.” Edmund Burke

Bruce Bialosky would have us invert the moral of this aphorism. He gives Joe Paterno a pass as a “good man.” How sad for him that these yappy child rape victims wanted justice. How does that help the “program”?

Next Bialosky condemns the Board of Trustees for doing SOMETHING. Firing an icon like the good Joe Paterno sent a signal that toleration of hideous crime was unacceptable (at least after the truth leaks out).

[Fry]

I was at a party about 12 years ago talking politics to the mother of a friend of mine. She is four or five years older than Paterno and I would call her a contemporary of Paterno. (Same generation, Catholic, grew up in New York etc.) In discussing Bill Clinton she made clear her disgust not just with his politics but with the nature of the acts Clinton and Lewinsky had engaged in. I'll never forget her saying "Who has ever heard of such a thing?" She is well educated, had four children and has lived and traveled extensively in the world. She is no dummy. It was an alien concept to her.

Also, I'm not convinced that McQueary was explicit with Paterno, in fact McQueary has testified that he didn't use some of the terms that are are freely thrown around here.
Not taking a side. Not justifying any ones actions. Just saying it is possible for people from a different time to have a different concept of these matters.

[C. Edmund Wright]

See post 74 — a bit of misinterpretation of my opinion.

[DManA]

In my fantasy world raping a child is not tolerated. And people who abet it are not worshiped. But I don’t expect everyone to share my fantasy.

[Larry Lucido]

So if “they” KILLED Joe.....

then by extension of that stupid, loose metaphor, Joe “buggered” others.

Right? Let’s all play fast and loose with metaphors! Wheeeeee!

[CanuckYank]

Suggest you re-read post #6 .............

[Larry Lucido]

But..but...you can’t call 9-1-1 based on hearsay. /s

(You are absolutely correct. But people who have absolutely no concept of the application of the rules of evidence right here on FR have actually said that! They actually believe that if person A tells person B that a crime is has been committed, person B has no right to contact law enforcement.)

[DManA]

Paterno continued to invite this monster into his building knowing what he was and knowing what he did there. This is not a man to be admired.

[CanuckYank]

This whole disgusting incident is just a small, inconvenient pimple on the butt of the Football Society of America. (If you doubt the existence of such, I just saw a headline on FR that 15% of respondents would miss the birth of their baby to attend the superbowl.)

Where are the trials of the perps and enablers???? Maybe we have to wait for the season to wrap (post-superbowl).....

Shut down a major school’s football cash machine (er .... “program”) for a year or more?

HORRORS AT THE VERY THOUGHT ....Follow the money, folks .................

[DManA]

You legalistic defense in unimpressive. Paterno was the law in his shower rooms. He didn’t need a court order to tell Sandusky that he wasn’t welcome there.

[varmintman]

Shut down a major school’s football cash machine (er .... “program”) for a year or more?

PSU isn't going to be able to get serious talent out of the high schools for some time. Think about it: You're a high school football player good enough to be recruited by more than one college... are you going to want to have to worry about how many fights you're going to get into when come home for breaks with your "PSU" jacket or sweatshirt on and everybody starts asking you about "PERV STATE UNIVERSITY"???

[wbill]

Poppycock.

Exactly.

Sandusky is the villian in the this story. However, I think that the graduate assistant is equally villianous, as are all the rest of the people who allowed this abuse to happen.

IMHO, when you catch someone molesting a kid in the shower, you don't run away to think it over and tell your daddy. You pick the pervert up, give him 5 in the chops and let the chips fall where they may.

From what little I've followed this story, it sounds to me like there was a distinct pattern of serial abuse going on, that was studiously ignored from the top down.

BTW, whatever happened to that reporter who made accusation of Sandusky "procuring" boys for high dollar donors? That particular story went quiet, real quick.

[Larry Lucido]

This Joe guy played football?

Wow, next you’ll tell me that John Kerry went to Vietnam!

[Hegewisch Dupa]

I don’t know if it’s that simple. They still will probably be able to draw from local talent; around PA there’s a definite Jonestown attitude that will follow PSU’s lead anywhere, and it’s the damned outsiders that just don’t get it.

[Larry Lucido]

Good, because I wasn’t trying to “impress” anyone, as you imply. I agree with your statement (he could have taken effective action unilaterally) and I was asserting that he could ALSO call the police to have an investigation commenced. So-called “hearsay” doesn’t prevent that.

Yes, alas, unimpressive but true.

[PA BOOKENDS]

Of course one has “the right” to call 911 (or the local TV station or post a comment or fly a banner from a plane) and, depending on circumstances, the police might even pursue it, but hearsay evidence is not admissible in court.

And if it turns out that your hearsay is false, at least two of those options could land you on the wrong side of the judge’s bench.

And I repeat: Joe Paterno reported what he was told to the police. (Maybe I need to fly a banner!)

[allmendream]

Good. Scum like him needed “killing”.......

if by killing you mean shame and ostracizing.

That scumbag knew what “Second Mile” at risk youth were “at risk” for - for over a decade - and did nothing while Sandusky paraded around a bunch of young boys through the halls of Pedo State.

[ZX12R]

And I repeat: Joe Paterno reported what he was told to the police.

That is simply not the truth. He did not report it to the police. He reported it to the V.P. of the university, who is not a policeman or any kind of law enforcement official. And the V.P. also didn't report it to the police. No one did. Now the V.P. and others are facing prison time for not reporting it, and for lying to the grand jury.

[SuzyQue]

“The premise is right, that a man of that era simply has no understanding of today’s culture of homosexuality and so on. That, however, is an indictment and not a defense of Paterno.”

OK, I’ll take your word for it, even if I don’t understand how my comment isn’t correct based on what you actually wrote.