They Killed Him

Townhall.com ^ | January 30, 2012 | Bruce Bialosky

[CodeToad]

Terrible article. It mixed someone’s sports fame with the rape of children as though they could in any way be related or that sports fame in any way should influence stopping the rape of a child.

ANYONE with knowledge about the rape of a child and does nothing is guilty. ANYONE that uses their public position, or any position of authority or influence, that prevents the prosecution for those that rape children is guilty.

[PA BOOKENDS]

You are incorrect.
Paterno reported an account of the events as told to him by McQueary to both athletic director Tim Curley (Paterno’s boss) and Gary Schultz, THE HEAD OF THE CAMPUS POLICE.

[camle]

i will not make excuses for jopa’s failure to follow through. football obviously was more important than children. i’d have to question the humanity of anybody with those priorities.

[C. Edmund Wright]

Your comment is probably correct on what I actually wrote. If you will see in post 74 I admitted I was probably inarticulate.

If you insist on believing that I am some kind of closet supporter of Paterno or a denier of the truth, then so be it. I cannot make you change your mind.

[ZX12R]

You are incorrect. Paterno reported an account of the events as told to him by McQueary to both athletic director Tim Curley (Paterno’s boss) and Gary Schultz, THE HEAD OF THE CAMPUS POLICE.

Either get your facts straight, or quit being a dimwit and/or a liar, whichever applies. Gary Schultz was the V.P. of the school, part of his responsibilities was to oversee the campus Police. He WAS NOT a law enforcement official of any kind. He was merely a school administrator. Therefore, it was not reported to the police, either technically or figuratively. The V.P. might go to prison, for not reporting it to THE POLICE.

[PA BOOKENDS]

The charge that is pending is PERJURY

Get YOUR facts straight. And if reporting the the HEAD of the campus police is not the same, then we have a problem with sematics.

[Maryland Man]

You are incorrect.

Facts - the University has its’ own police force. An act committed on University property cannot be investigated by the State College police(I know this because I have a daughter up there being harrassed by an ex-boyfriend, which ended, thankfully).

Reporting this incident to Schultz was reporting to the man in charge of the campus police. He and Curley informed McQueary they would complete an investigation, which McQueary reported back to Paterno when Paternon followed up with him.

Shultz is not on the hook for not reporting to the police but for perjury to the grand jury.

THOSE ARE THE FACTS.

[ZX12R]

Mike McQueary, the Penn State assistant coach whose account is central to the cases against Jerry Sandusky, Tim Curley (he's the Penn State athletic director, currently on leave), and Gary Schultz (the school's former senior vice president for business and finance). The latter two are charged with perjury and failure to report abuse.

[HiTech RedNeck]

Sometimes things need to be redneck rapped.

[HiTech RedNeck]

sounds like an awfully lame-@$$ “investigation” happened, at best.

[PA BOOKENDS]

I retract what I said about the semantics problem. A reasonable person would reasonably assume that reporting to the head of an organiation is, in effect, reporting to the organization.

Really, are you so filled with anti-Penn State/Paterno animosity that at this point, when all the facts are not even close to being aired, you can’t allow for reasonable doubt?

You’d make a great trustee.

[Maryland Man]

Schultz was in charge of Campus Police. If you had a huge issue such as this, and you were a power on campus, you would direct the investigation to him, bypassing the layers it would take to reach him.

Paterno placed his credibility to McQueary’s story by setting up the meeting with these men.

At issue with the GJ is what was said by McQueary to these two. The stories do not match.

[PA BOOKENDS]

I asked the question months ago: how did the head of the campus police end up being VP for business & finance? Sounded then and still sounds fishy to me. Sounds like a reward for . . . who knows what.

I bet Joe knew /s/
I bet Spanier really does know - no sarcasm intended.

Nevertheless, I refer you back you Maryland Man.

[Trailerpark Badass]

Paterno made his own choices. The consequences he suffered were as a result of his own actions.

No kidding. He made it all about himself at PSU, hanging on far past his usefulness as a coach. PSU hasn't been relevant nationally for 15 years, but he still hung on. Well, when you make it all about yourself, you get the bad along with the good.

Negligent indifference to horrible crimes against children is not "doing what you're supposed to do." He had his name all over that program, but when it mattered, when innocent children's lives, essentially, were on the line, he shut his eyes and passed the buck. Maybe the 65 year-old Joe Paterno wouldd have been more diligent in tracking down the truth of the terrible rumors, who knows?

And I don't think Penn State people know how creepy their idol worship of JoePa looks to the rest of us. I know they don't take their college football any more seriously than we do at UGA, but we don't worship our coaches. Heck, if they don't win the SEC every year, half the people want him fired.

Jo Paterno's case is a sad fable on the sin of pride.

[Maryland Man]

Agreed.

There seems to be some discrepancy on what McQueary told to whom and hopefully that will be 100% determined in the trials going forward.

Too many people are making assumptions based in incomplete information or false information. Let the trials go on and then pass judgement.

[ZX12R]

This is from the grand jury report. Read it and weep:

"Although Schultz oversaw the University Police as part of his position, he never reported the 2002 incident to the University Police or other police agency, never sought or reviewed a police report on the 1998 incident and never tried to learn the identity of the child in the shower in 2002. No one from the University did so."

The facts are, that NO ONE reported it to the police. It seems that your precious Penn State organization doesn't care at all about young boys being raped, as long as the football program is okay.

[Trailerpark Badass]

If McCreary's vague/not vague story were the only hint Paterno and the PSU adminstration had of Sandusky's behavior, it might be possible to excuse their lack of action.

Of course, we all know that's not the case.

[dfwgator]

I think we are going to find that the campus police played a huge role in the cover-up....did they do it on their own, or did somebody order them to do it?

This whole thing stinks from top to bottom.

[HiTech RedNeck]

Despite McQueary possibly have had told two different versions, wasn’t it still clear enough to all that a boy had been buggered in his sight or close to it?

[ZX12R]

I asked the question months ago: how did the head of the campus police end up being VP for business & finance? Sounded then and still sounds fishy to me. Sounds like a reward for . . . who knows what.

You should just give this up, I'm only going to keep making you look worse.

The responsibility for the police department comes with the Job of V.P. So, he originally got that responsibility when he got the job, not vice versa. Schultz was never a law enforcement officer at any time in his life. You have no idea how University administration works, do you?