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To: Bernard Marx

Romney has a lot of issues that make him vulnerable right now and in the general election.

Newt however also has a lot of issues that make him equally if not more vulnerable in the general election. Again no one has laid out for me how Newt wins the midwest swing states such as OH, PA, WI, MI, CO, Iowa. Despite all the unity around Newt at this site and in some southern states, he just isn’t very popular in those swing states that we need to beat Obama. The electoral map is critical.

Neither guy is ideal to run in the fall.


26 posted on 01/29/2012 12:29:07 PM PST by SteveAustin
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30 posted on 01/29/2012 12:32:09 PM PST by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: SteveAustin

I think you’re missing the point here :) it’s not that Romney is more electable than Newt...he probably is...but so what? What’s the point of electing another liberal over a marxist???

Romney will just take longer to collapse the system. Obama is ready to push us over the cliff now.

Personally, I’d rather fight a out-and-out marxist...at least we know where we stand.

Romeny is a Massachusetts liberal...he will say he isn’t, but he is. His entire history is one of liberalism. From pro-abortion to unlimited immigration.

Third party is our only choice this time.


45 posted on 01/29/2012 12:43:09 PM PST by kjo
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To: SteveAustin

Where is the evidence Newt’s not popular in those swing states? There have been polls that showed both Romney and Newt 48-50 against Obama recently. Polls right now mean absolutely nothing. Kerry was ahead of Bush by 7 points even 4 months before that election.

I’m a Pennsylvanian and can tell you Newt will do far, far better than Romney in those states. They don’t like wealthy elites in blue collar industrial states. They like patriotism and populism, Newt’s strong points.

BTW, “approval ratings” mean very little. Those polls ask ALL Americans, not just voters, if they view a candidate “favorably.” We can very easily end up with most people “liking” Obama better than the Republican, but thinking Obama’s less qualified to be or less effective as President.


50 posted on 01/29/2012 1:11:09 PM PST by JediJones (Newt-er Romney in 2012!)
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To: SteveAustin

At least Newt thinks that your basic American voter is intelligent enough to go to the toilet wipe,flush ,wash hands in the correct order without a platoon of govt. flunkies keeping track of me while I attend to business .


54 posted on 01/29/2012 1:23:11 PM PST by Nebr FAL owner (.308 reach out & thump someone .50 cal.Browning Machine gun reach out & crush someone)
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To: SteveAustin
Neither guy is ideal to run in the fall.

I agree with you. Bear in mind what I posted doesn't represent my own thinking about the campaign. I was answering the question posed in the thread: "Why does the GOP establishment want to run a moderate liberal? ( We will lose to Obama )"

I think Obama will destroy Romney with the class warfare campaign that began with the Occupy Wall Street movement and will only intensify. A Romney candidacy is a gift to Obama.

I think Newt has a better chance of winning, but with caveats. He's smart, knows what Obama is up to, and has the ability to frame issues in a way that can attract independents and fence-sitters as well as conservatives. But he has baggage that will be exploited by Obama's big Hollywood, union and Wall Street money. .

I really like Santorum but he just doesn't excite a broad field of voters. Frankly, as things stand, I'm preparing myself for another 4 years of Obama. But I'm hoping Newt pulls off a long shot.

62 posted on 01/29/2012 1:54:01 PM PST by Bernard Marx
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