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Bain used legalized theft (bankruptcy) to privative profit and socialize loss.

Posted on 01/27/2012 8:40:26 PM PST by liberty2all

I’m so tired of the refrain that a critique of Mitt Romney’s work at Bain is “an attack on capitalism.” Capitalism means that you RISK capital, so that you will profit if things go well and you will incur a loss if things go poorly.

Private equity firms, like Bain, are in the business of maximizing profit for investors (not to “create jobs” as characterized by Romney supporters), which is perfectly reasonable and legal. To do that, private equity firms often make investments then extract “consulting fees” and “special dividends” in excess of the original investment to ensure that no loss is incurred by the private equity firm. Their ability to extract those fees and dividends was often accomplished through over-leveraging of the target company or through liquidation of company assets. If Bain was able to turn a target company around financially, great. If not, Bain could default on the debt of the company through bankruptcy. In one such example, Bain extracted $120 million and then defaulted through bankruptcy on the debt of the business (which included employee pension debt). In the case of one company, I believe that the pension debt of approximately $40 million was even absorbed by the federal government - - in other words, taxpayers!

Fundamentally, bankruptcy is legalized theft from creditors. It has been accepted as part of our legal framework in the United States, primarily because we don’t want to see fellow citizens toiling away in debtors prisons. Today, financiers and investors on Wall Street (including billionaires such as Donald Trump) use cheap federal reserve currency and bankruptcy laws in a cynical way to take risks for which profit is privatized and losses are socialized (through bankruptcy). This is entirely legal, but it is NOT the free market, free enterprise or capitalism.

Romney is not a Henry Ford or Bill Gates capitalist who created a product or process that creates wealth, jobs and benefits people’s lives. Romney worked on Wall Street, using the cheap money of the federal reserve, maximized profit for investors, and defaulted on debt through bankruptcy when things went south. Even when Bain turned businesses around, they were largely able to extort creditors into accepting lesser payment than owed through the threat of bankruptcy (legalized theft). Dan Henninger penned a column in the Wall Street Journal, through which he asserted that this process helped American businesses become more efficient and profitable in the long run. Admittedly, this is a desirable outcome. However, the fact that it was achieved through threats of legalized theft should raise questions about the morality of this practice.

Romney’s only claim to fame is his experience in the private sector. Interesting that his “experience” relied significantly on statutorily sanctioned theft.


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1 posted on 01/27/2012 8:40:31 PM PST by liberty2all
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To: liberty2all

Anything to say? Or just slanderous guilt by association?


2 posted on 01/27/2012 8:49:21 PM PST by Eldon Tyrell (question,.)
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3 posted on 01/27/2012 8:54:27 PM PST by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: liberty2all

“privatize profit” sounds like commie code words


4 posted on 01/27/2012 8:59:14 PM PST by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: liberty2all

What we need is the end of public funding of corporations such as bailouts and subsidies.


5 posted on 01/27/2012 9:00:30 PM PST by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: liberty2all; xzins

Incoming!!


6 posted on 01/27/2012 9:01:11 PM PST by P-Marlowe (NEWT!!! The Anti-EstablishMITTarian Candidate)
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To: liberty2all

Well at least Mitt was not teaching an American history class. He would be really ethically challenged if that was his job. s/ Mitt says his work was just as important as BamBamKennedy bailing out the auto industry.... ‘cash for clunkers’ was the dividend for US.

http://thehill.com/video/campaign/203497-romney-likens-work-at-bain-to-obamas-auto-industry-bailout


7 posted on 01/27/2012 9:09:43 PM PST by Just mythoughts (Luke 17:32 Remember Lot's wife.)
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To: liberty2all

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8 posted on 01/27/2012 9:09:43 PM PST by Pelham (Vultures for Romney. We pluck your carcass)
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To: liberty2all

What the heck is going on around here?

What’s next, calling for stronger federal government to reign in out-of-control capitalism?

Or just supporting an academic whose only other jobs have been in government?


9 posted on 01/27/2012 9:19:20 PM PST by Darkwolf377 ( It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies.--C.S. Lewis)
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To: liberty2all
I won't vote for Romney, or defend him, but lay off bankruptcy, it is simply a tool to recycle wealth back into the capitalistic system when businesses fail.

Like any tool, when properly used, it works just fine and does the job.

10 posted on 01/27/2012 9:20:18 PM PST by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it. (plagiarized))
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To: liberty2all

Bain Capital was set up in the 80’s and was the reason for the growth during Reagan’s time. Companies at that time with double digit inflation and high interest rates sat on a lot of cash. Fear leads to inaction so when they had enough of that pain Romney’s firm came in and force them to be profitable. Need sone of that private dynamism.


11 posted on 01/27/2012 9:26:21 PM PST by frank46
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To: liberty2all

If you had the least bit of understanding of business, economics and finance you would know that bankruptcy and capital investment are a vital part of an economic system.

Look, I understand that you don’t like Romney. However, this is getting real stupid real fast.


12 posted on 01/27/2012 9:41:14 PM PST by willamedwardwallace
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To: frank46
Bain Capital was set up in the 80’s and was the reason for the growth during Reagan’s time. Companies at that time with double digit inflation and high interest rates sat on a lot of cash. Fear leads to inaction so when they had enough of that pain Romney’s firm came in and force them to be profitable. Need sone of that private dynamism.

Your logic is not logical. If these companies were sitting on cash they would not be bankrupt nor in need of Bains Capital.

13 posted on 01/27/2012 10:39:02 PM PST by cpdiii (Deckhand, Roughneck, Mud Man, Geologist, Pilot, Pharmacist. THE CONSTITUTION IS WORTH DYING FOR!)
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To: cpdiii

I’m not privy to the ins and outs of Bain’s capital manipulations but I am a party as a stockholder to one situation a number of years ago. The company I had stock in had been sitting on a big cash reserve , paying regular dividends, waiting to finance projects when economic situations warranted. Seeing the situation some ‘capital’ investors invested their funds in taking over the majority of the board. In no time at all the original company was split and the reserve funds were taken away and I was left with two much lower level of investments. Granted the original company faltered somewhat but the large reserve was gone. I suspect Bain has been involved in similar shenanigans. At the time it was not called capitalization but called corporate raiding and looting.


14 posted on 01/27/2012 11:28:53 PM PST by noinfringers2
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To: liberty2all

Well thank you for your ignorant and uninformed opinion nOOb.

You mind giving me that shovel you been using where there ain’t no dirt?

I’d like to pit it to use profitably moving this pile of crap from here to the mushroom farm I invested in.


15 posted on 01/27/2012 11:28:53 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: willamedwardwallace

You said real stoopid “real fast” to a slug. LOL


16 posted on 01/27/2012 11:31:57 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: liberty2all

OK. Example?


17 posted on 01/27/2012 11:44:56 PM PST by steve8714 (Hitchens was wrong.)
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To: noinfringers2

Through the 1980s, 1990s and into this century it has been true that companies who behaved responsibly and kept cash to a maximum were taken over by those who dashed to the loan window. These purchases were then financed on the backs of employees, creditors and taxpayers. I believe that when the money center banks and investment brokers were allowed to merge this process accelerated. This devalued the skills of industrial organization and engineering and brought us to the reign of the arbitrageurs and attorneys. This is a societal shift which I believe was probably the result of legislation and regulation designed for the repair of some perceived problem and shows the law of Unintended Consequence.


18 posted on 01/27/2012 11:54:36 PM PST by steve8714 (Hitchens was wrong.)
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To: Navy Patriot

but lay off bankruptcy, it is simply a tool to recycle wealth back into the capitalistic system when businesses fail.
Like any tool, when properly used, it works just fine and does the job.

And when misused it provides the means to commit rape and murder. Capitalism involves the risk of capital. Letting the incompetent and corrupt off the hook does no one any good. If business owners want to profit from business, they must also risk loss. The same standard should apply to the management of corporations. The idea that a CEO can take home millions while making decisions that will screw others out of much more is a joke.


19 posted on 01/28/2012 10:48:56 AM PST by freedomfiter2 (Brutal acts of commission and yawning acts of omission both strengthen the hand of the devil.)
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To: GeronL
“privatize profit” sounds like commie code words

Actually, it's the heart of national socialism: public expense/private profit.

20 posted on 01/28/2012 6:31:12 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Pray Continued Victory for our Troops Still in Afghan!)
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