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To: Danae

The Supreme Court has said that a citizen is either

1. Born a citizen

or

2. Becomes a citizen through naturalization

There is no magical third way to be a citizen.

Marco Rubio was (1. Born a citizen). He is a “Natural Born Citizen” as the Supreme Court has stated that there are only two ways to be a citizen.

I would offer you the excerpts that state such, but most people who want to believe in the magical third form of citizen refuse to look at facts and evidence.


8 posted on 01/27/2012 11:12:45 AM PST by Anitius Severinus Boethius
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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius

Kettle, Pot.


12 posted on 01/27/2012 11:15:48 AM PST by null and void (Day 1102 of America's ObamaVacation from reality [Heroes aren't made, Frank, they're cornered...])
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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius

Here we go again...


14 posted on 01/27/2012 11:16:50 AM PST by DonkeyBonker
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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius

You must know more than this guy...
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2838849/posts

From the above link:
Clause B is a general rule of citizenship, which states that all persons born in the country are members of the nation.

Clause A is a specific clause that says only those members of the nation who are “natural born” may be President.

According to the rule of statutory construction, the court must determine that Clause A requires something more than Clause B.

It’s truly that simple. This is not some crazy conspiracy theory. It’s not controversial. This is not rocket science. Every single attorney reading this right now knows, beyond any shadow of a doubt, that I have accurately explained the rule of statutory construction to you. Any attorney who denies this rule, is lying. The rule cannot be denied. And its simplicity cannot be ignored.

If it’s all the same, why did they use more specific language in article 2?


20 posted on 01/27/2012 11:18:28 AM PST by nixonsnose (Let's see all you lawyers argue your way out of hell.)
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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius

Bull shit!


39 posted on 01/27/2012 11:43:19 AM PST by jcsjcm (This country was built on exceptionalism and individualism. In God we Trust - Laus Deo)
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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius

Consider {natural born citizen} a unique and special subset of the set {citizen}. It is this special subset specified in the Constitution.


45 posted on 01/27/2012 11:47:25 AM PST by bossmechanic (If all else fails, hit it with a hammer)
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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius
You ave not been watching the whole debate on this issue have you?

Minor v Happersett (1874)says the opposite. This case has never been overturned either by following law cases or by legislation OR Amendments. It is still the law of the land, and will be UNLESS it is changed. It is the law.

"The Constitution does not, in words, say who shall be natural-born citizens. Resort must be had elsewhere to ascertain that. At common-law, with the nomenclature of which the framers of the Constitution were familiar, it was never doubted that all children born in a country of parents who were its citizens became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also. These were natives, or natural-born citizens, as distinguished from aliens or foreigners.” Minor v. Happersett, 88 U.S. 162, 168."
47 posted on 01/27/2012 11:51:48 AM PST by Danae (Anailnathrach ortha bhais beatha do cheal deanaimha)
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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius
I do not understand why English grammar is so difficult in today's world.

No, there are only two distinct types of citizenship recognized by the United States Constitution. They are Citizens of the United States and Natural Born Citizens.

There are no naturalized citizens. There are no native born citizens. And they are certainly not subsets of each other. They are distinct and succinct. Citizenship is a state of sovereignty. It is not important how one becomes a citizen or a natural born citizen. It is that one is or is not one or the other. You are either born to a citizen father (Natural Born Citizen) or you are not (Citizen of the United States, or not a citizen at all).

93 posted on 01/27/2012 3:23:01 PM PST by devattel
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